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Charts ( up to T120) Winter 2025/2026 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Ros4Sam24


    No end in taught to the Atlantic onslaught with Gfs 18z showing a deep low a bit too close for comfort at day 5. Just one to keep an eye on

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The GFS afternoon op run goes for a festive flavour to our weather from the 23rd.

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    The deep cold over the USA is also expected to come to a dramatic end come Xmas. Maybe, just maybe…

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The ECMWF not wanting to be outdone

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    GFS 24hr rainfall predictions and totals building a bit later for around Waterford.

    Big totals over the mountains of Kerry, 70 -77mm on this one and ECM not far behind. Some run off from that.

    ECM much higher totals now along the S over to the SE.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭BrentMused


    How's the potential storm event Thursday into Friday looking on current charts?

    Saw a few people flagging it up as a potential event over the last couple of days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭Darwin


    Looks to be just a blustery day on this evenings charts, GFS has even dropped the idea. I would imagine there is still a degree of uncertainty as it is still 4 days away, but so far so good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Yeah wed and thurs prob just wet at times now and hopefully less wet pattern developing after that.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Increasingly cold mid level and uppers over us the coming days. ECM has being showing rain belts ( possible trough ) moving into the cold air on Sunday creating convection with a few wintry showers possible, maybe some white mountain peaks, freezing levels not low enough for snow yet but some frosty nights in store for parts Sat night into Sun morning, Sun night into Mon morning, Mon night into Tues morning, Tues night into Weds morning and following nights. Fog might become a feature also from the weekend in some sheltered areas.

    Frontal rain on Saturday and then not too bad after that , some features showing up affecting parts at times but not widespread .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I'm sure the likes of Sally gap may get some snow ❄️ if the snow level goes down below 500 meters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


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    what a chart!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Decani


    Can't remember where I heard it but the 528 dam line is the magic ingredient

    The 528 line | Royal Meteorological Society



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭sparrowcar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Tzmaster90


    i heard it only from boards. ie when i was looking for snowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,941 ✭✭✭✭Supercell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭almostthere12


    I am amazed that there are still a fair few members coming in at a good bit below the operationals of the gfs and gem for 850s on Christmas Day/Stephens Day. Don’t think any of them will happen but shows how uncertain the models are only 4 days away.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭ClimateObserver


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    How far south the high drifts is dependent on the strength of this secondary low the models are picking up on. The trouble is, it is only starting to gather itself around Tuesday afternoon.

    I would really like to see the parent low to the north of the area marked hold further west and make it's way up the west coast of Greenland. However, that is very much unlikely to happen, so it spawns a secondary low which 'topples' our high southwards over Ireland and the UK in the days ahead.

    Pity, but that's the joys of the Atlantic. It can still manage to spoil the fun from two thousand miles away let alone off the west coast of Clare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭glightning


    The 528dam (1000-500mb) line is only part of the equation though. Being on the cold side of that line really only gives a 50/50 chance for wintry precipitation at sea level. It needs to be closer to 510dam for guaranteed snow in Ireland. In order for snow to fall to sea level in this country the 1000-850mb partial thickness is much better to look at. You really want that to be 128dam or less for sea level snow in Ireland.

    The lowest values currently forecast for the holiday period is :-

    1000-500 = 535dam
    
    1000-850 = 130.6dam
    
    850mb Temp = -1.3c
    
    Essentially all three params are way too high for snow
    


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


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    that high can only go in one direction and that’s up. I don’t think that high will sink which is what showing up on FI charts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,629 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Well , the ECM looks more plausible in sinking the high due to shortwaves going over the top of the high . Given how poorly the GFS is performing it may not be picking up on that. I certainly would have more confidence if the ECM was on board. I'd love to wake up to the next ECM run showing the high going into Greenland as per the latest GFS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,533 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


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    still think that Arctic plunge will reach us eventually, a very end of December 1962 chart !
    … been in the pub all day so apologies for my outrageous ramping ..

    a very old chart from weathercharts.org .. 25/12/62 .. definite similarities.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Some frosts in places over the coming days and feeling cold but Tuesday has the first real cold potential over us and pressure remaining high. No real source of precipitation showing up at this stage but maybe getting cold enough on elevated ground for a few flurries of snow or graupel coming in from the East coasts off the Irish sea ?? European models more progressive with the cold than the GFS.

    ECM has -5C 850 hPa temps for a time, UKMO borderline between 0 and -3C on the E coasts, GFS perhaps getting there late in the day coming down from the NE to about -3C, ICON -4 to -6C, GEM above 0C on the latest run.

    Surface temps staying up around 6 or 7C along the East it would seem with the winds coming in off the sea. Cold across the country followed by a widespread sharp frost and possibly fog ( maybe freezing fog for a time ) inland on Weds and some areas might struggle to get up over 2 or 3C and followed by freezing hard early evening on Weds.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    Fantastic pattern at +72hrs, I'm using the GEFS to illustrate, but essentially all models look the same at this range. Full of promise with that trigger low dropping down from the north, as heights build into Greenland.

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    At +96hrs we are only heading one direction...

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    The deepening area of LP Thurs /Fri now well South of Ireland from the ECM 12Z with the strong winds well off shore heading up the English channel and into France and the precipitation band moving across Ireland not really producing snow on this run.

    GFS 12Z has the system a bit closer to the South and strong winds just brushing off the coasts for a short time and it does show the chance of some wintry falls, 850 hPa temps about -5 on this run, that bit colder than the ECM.

    ICON has the system the closest of the three more reliable models with stronger winds for a time in Southern counties and its associated fronts producing a big dump of snow across parts of the southern half of the country.

    GEM the furthest South and not showing any snow from the system .

    ACCESS-G showing strong winds brush off the S coasts on Thurs but the 850hPa temps don't look cold enough for snow on this run when the fronts come up against the airmass.

    GFS 18Z coming out shortly and will see if any new developments but as it stands a lot of uncertainty, it is possible that there is some frontal snow but very uncertain IMO.

    GFS 18Z has the systems core now passing over the South of Ireland with accompanying winds to the South of it affecting some S, SE parts and the bands of precipitation North of it and on this run showing a big dump of snow over a large area especially the midlands.

    Keen to see what the ECM brings out on the 18Z.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Mayo and Louth


    That low turns into a rather vicious looking feature for the Southern UK on Thursday night.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Well for now, all the models for Thurs/Fri now bringing that LP ( depicted of various strengths ) well South of us on a track towards the English channel /France. The chance of a frontal snow event has all but vanished, some models still showing a few wintry showers from showery troughs at times but mainly on elevated ground, 850hP temps could be around -4C or so . Windy conditions on the main staying off shore.

    Remaining on the cold side this week with widespread frost tonight for a time with approaching fronts from the W. Might have some snow initially in the N and over some Mountain ranges especially the Wicklow Mts where it will be the coldest in the East by morning with temps rising from the West.

    Next week end looking unsettled at times with wind and rain and milder temperatures.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    This morning’s ICON run suggests a relatively high risk of low-level snowfall, at least for a time, across parts of Munster and southern Leinster. In contrast, the 06z GFS limits the risk mainly to higher ground in the south. At present, there is little support for a more widespread snow event from other models, so confidence remains low and further shifts in guidance are likely.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    It's not your typical developing low pressure system. It develops in a small wedge between two high pressure zones and quickly interacts with the Jet. A forecasters nightmare as it may become a full storm in a 24hr period. A big snow watch for England, and also Northern parts of France look like taking a battering from storm force winds. I wonder which country will get to name the system?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    and the North Leinster Snow shield continues! No surprises there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    We're better off waiting Gonzo, there's no point getting pelted with cold rain. I'd be surprised if the south gets snow from it.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    yeah GFS both 00z and 06z not showing it at all, just cold rain for everyone.



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