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2025 Irish EV Sales

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    I’m not sure the demand is there. If you wanted one you could have one. This smells a bit like the model 3 thread in 2019



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Maybe they'll all buy an identical Micra instead 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    we might laugh, but anyone on the Nissan pcp roundabout will be happy to just roll into one I’d say. That’s how most of those cars shift sales



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭crl84


    Spot on.
    R5, ID3 GTX and Born VZ are all completely niche products.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    what’s the real world price difference between the Inster and R5, in a medium spec?

    The EV3 would appear to be having the same success as the early Sportage had, 10 years ago



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Have my invoice in front of me from 3rd July

    Large battery 52kwh, mid spec techno 30,195

    Delivery 1075

    Pop Green Paint 825 - I dont believe there is a free colour so all pay this regardless of colour

    Black roof and red strip 400

    Total price 32,495

    Inster 49kwh seems to top out at 25000 on donedeal anyway before you get into inster cross which seem to go up to 28000. Would there be delivery charges or metallic paint on top of these prices? Ill add 1000 just for now.

    So R5 is a more expensive machine by approx 6000 for techno and maybe up to 8000 for top spec iconic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Thanks for that - whatever way you cut it, the R5 is 25% more expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭Ev fan


    I think it's great to see in the last year the expansion of small EV options giving more choice for people to buy their 1st EV. What I'm waiting for is the launch of the ID2 Polo or whatever it will be called early ? Next year. A very important car I think for VW being a mainstream manufacturer and if they get it right should sell in large numbers. To a lesser extent also the ID1 but that isn't due until 2027.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,490 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I know three people that bought EVs in last month. They definitely wouldn’t be early adopters. They thought we were mad when we bought ours in 2021.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    they were right then and they’re right now :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I'm going to NEVO show with 2 friends, 1 of them has been interested in EVs for a while but hasn't bought anything yet but says his next car will be EV, hes will wait for the right car at the right price though and wants something small enough but still practical, my money is on him buying a skoda epiq when it is available. The other is just curious and out for the day trip and will likely buy used car next.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,490 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Interestingly two of the three I know bought used EVs.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,567 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    EVs have definitely gone mainstream at this point, at least we can brag we had them before they were normal 😂

    I wonder what the next big thing will be, probably going car free or something

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,507 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Any hint of a Boards gathering at the show?

    Or is that too 2015?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    some Jan-Nov numbers, this is probably where the year will end.

    EV market share is back to 2023’s 18.5%.

    most if not all manufacturers are ahead now of 2023, purely down to the market having considerably more models available, and only Tesla, MG & bmw are down for 2 years straight

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Are Tesla not doing deliveries this month as it's end of quarter?

    2%-3% for Tesla and BYD is negligible and BMW still saying the future is Hydrogen was always going to damage their reputation among EV buyers. The biggest surprise for me there is MG, I see more 4's on the road around the Limerick area than I do Tesla's. Anecdotal, I know, and to be fair it could be more indicative of a second hand market, but just surprising to see they are down, and so significantly, 2 years in a row



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,507 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Is it surprising really? A lot more competition year on year and still an overwhelming majority of buyers quite resistant to change / risk adverse and sticking to established brands like VW - if they even move to EVs in the first place.

    Koreans doing well with better perceived warranties and Renault launching the R5 gave a nice boost to the figures.

    No real value in BMW in any segment anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    I don't understand. Almost all are down on last year. How is that good?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭josip




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    You’re probably looking at where they’re all down in 2024 v 2023.

    So VW e.g 2025 is up 22% on 2024, and 2024 was down 37% on 2023

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    re: Tesla, I suppose it’s how you interpret it.

    The 3 manufacturers with their level of volume (Kia, Hyundai & VW), are all considerably ahead of last years volume - and Tesla have 2 new models in their lineup. I know the M3 was face-lifted for 2024, but still. They sold 3,000 of the 2 pre-facelift models in 2023.

    As for December deliveries, surely people have figured out Tesla by now and just delay their delivery to Jan. we’ve seen how it’s all just smoke and mirrors for a few Junes and Decembers at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    The MG4 is up against plenty of rivals in the under-€30k bracket, but it’s still surprising that the new MG S5 has shifted fewer than 200 units since July. It may be that many buyers are holding off for 261 plates. January sales will be interesting to watch. I’m looking at one myself at the moment and it really does offer great value.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,140 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    It's weird Tesla always seems to be the headline for people reporting on sales numbers , weckler had some post on threads about Teslas decline when's it marginal and they have two of the top 5 selling EV models in the country, obviously only having 2 models will mean as other manufacturers ranges increase their market share will drop!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    This is true I also wonder if the MG4's colours have anything to do with it, the orange and blue especially do stand out quite a bit in fairness



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    For me I'm a little surprised that the % drop is less than 3. With all the bad press you'd think it would be more of a drop

    For others I think there's a combination of jealousy and buyers remorse, most would have bought more expensive cars with less tech in them only to find they have to spend €200-€300 a year on servicing screenwash. I'd put Weckler into that grouping, if memory serves he spent €60k on his VW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    that’s not really the point. Tesla have 2 of the best EVs out there, both with very recent refreshes, yet it’s dropping sales in an expanding market. Add in how topical Tesla is because of its valuation and its ceo, and it’s natural that they would report on real sales figures being in total contradiction with the company’s sales targets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,507 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Stock doing well, shareholders happy (including all the ones on here), customers happy. Seems like we are nitpicking maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭josip


    It's been the guts of a year since Musk was full-Musk. By 2026 most will have forgotten.The majority of people who said they wouldn't buy Tesla because of Musk weren't going to buy a Tesla anyway. They were going to stick with the same brand they've always bought or buy from the local salesman who has always looked after them. I do completely understand people outside of Belfast/Cork/Dublin who want somewhere nearby they can go to if they have issues.

    Having to pay for the vehicle to be inspected to keep a warranty that only lasts for 3 years seems nuts to me however. But each to their own. I owned VW ICEs for 18 years and although I was happy with them, I don't miss the regular trips to the garage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    you’re conflating two things that normally should be connected, but with Tesla aren’t (for all the reasons we discuss ad nauseum).

    sales numbers are the only true measure of a cars commercial success. It’s unconnected to robots or Ai or shareholders or share price. (That said, the high volume of Tesla and other EV sales to taxi drivers will muddy the water).

    These 2 models will almost certainly never be big volume sellers again, Musk going away or not, that’s just how the car lifecycle works.



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