Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

I was just going to post almost exactly the same thing, followed by a similar point about both Noem and Trump themselves being descended from immigrants but again they were white…..

My point was that the head of the civil administration [and the military under his command] would doubtless not be held liable for any act taken by them in the furtherance of his political aims, Trump [or who-ever] taking a page from Clausewitz.

Very much a Russian Mafia gangster style threat which Trump understands well as it is the code he operates under, fits in with his verbal ways, nothing written down or recorded and never complain - never explain.

What ever about Trump surviving this Presidency or life for the next 3 years, I'm not sure the rest of the World will survive this Madness…

And whoever takes over as the next U.S President will spend their 4 years trying to rebuild America and it's reputation in the World…

In his September speech to Army Chiefs and Generals, Hegseth stated that "they should not be bound by stupid rules of engagement and political correctness and we should untie the hands of our war fighters to kill and we have their backs".

The last bit is now replaced by we throw them under a bus

If it was and has his signature, was it the dastardly pen again?

This is what he spends his entire Presidential time doing when not playing Golf, posting 150 times just sounds like he managed to connect to Wi-Fi and upload all his "work"… :)

A VP replacement would have to go through the house and Senate so couldn't see a Trump getting through in the event of a good mid term for the Dems.

I look forward to seeing the Whitehouse and Don's reaction to the news that Canada has signed up to the EU's SAFE military loans and funding programme.

Carney has managed the pivot away from Trump alignment very astutely IMHO.

Probably posted here before! What comes after democracy.

According to Plato's political philosophy, the form of government that inevitably follows democracy is tyranny. He believed that democracy, with its excessive pursuit of freedom, would eventually lead to a state of disorder where citizens become impatient with authority and laws. This chaos would ultimately pave the way for a tyrant to seize power.

• Democracy and freedom: Plato saw democracy's focus on absolute freedom as its fatal flaw. He argued that when everyone is free to do as they please, the result is chaos and a disregard for rules.
• The rise of the tyrant: In this chaotic environment, a champion or strongman emerges, promising to restore order. The people, tired of the lawlessness, embrace this leader.
• The tyrannical state: This leader eventually consolidates power and becomes a tyrant, which is the final and lowest form of government in Plato's model. 

Game theory would suggest that a Democrat House/Senate should be OK with the appointment of a wholly unsuitable and frivolous VP - it is perhaps preferable to a serious 'Governor of Swing State' selection?

But to an extent it doesn't matter to Vance in the scenario I outlined - get Trump to resign in Jan 27 to enable a possible 10 year as POTUS, promise an all-encompassing pardon (deliverable) and promise to actively push for Trumps favoured VP candidate (but can't be guaranteed).

It's a whole nation of immigrants. Nobody there can trace much of an ancestry (outside of the obvious people). But yeah, there's certainly a distasteful (to put it mildly) aspect to anyone in America banging on about immigration considering the history of the place.

Although, as somebody else said, at least these arseholes aren't trying to hide their blatant racism any more. I'm still not sure how to actually feel about that.