Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

"... it's the price of a can of coke and a couple of chocolate bars in the difference of them all."

So true. But the bigger reality is that all plan pricing is based on the current and any announced near-term changes, but not changes that occur throughout the course of the contract. It would be interesting to look back retrospectively when the year is up to see how a chosen plan compared to the others, but life's too short :)

Flogas fixed still cheaper for heavy night rate users like myself - heat pump, etc. But yeah the price differentials are small compared to what they have been in the past.

Still on the Flogas 18 month fixed rate for dual fuel.. have many of ye changed from this rate in the last few months? Value to be had?

Energypal suggesting another Flogas deal — but i doubt they'll let me move there..

FloGas - Smart 24Hr Dual Fuel 30% Discount + €210 plan

DG1 24HR DF BAFF

Could have done.But then it's Flogas

Also, can you use Energy Pal or any of the other such sites, if you don't have a smart meter to upload a data file from?

And, if so, how?

TIA.

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yes you instigate the switch the day after your contract is up 👍

log into your account and it gives the option of selecting a new contract offer or ring them and they offer the discount along with €75 bonus. 01 5143988

Energy pal suggests same for me although I am currently not on a smart plan beware if you are not on a smart plan once u switch to one u cannot switch back

Other than that if you are happy to go with Flogas switch online day or two after your contract is up. Energia retention team will probably call to make u an offer to stay

Dont worry as it's a known issue. It happens when you quote 2 consecutive posts.

As far as I can remember (when the plan details were still immediately visible at that link) there was no welcome credit incentive to sign up. It was all about the preferential and (supposedly) fixed rate. Although, we all now know it wasn't, in fact, "fixed" at all.

Just tried to input my email address (the one I already used to sign up for gas with them via this plan, twice) there to see for myself and it said that the "email domains do not match", so I'm unable to access the plan information.

Has anyone been able to access it? Or do you now presumably need an actual BWG email address to do so?

The answer to your query is sign up the day after the contract expires. So sign up on Wednesday.

Pinergy is an odd company to go with. I'd be avoiding them

@bren2001, do you have solar PV/Battery? Curious about the comment re pinenergy? They have 6c 3 hour overnight rate and 25c feed in tariff currently. If you have solar pv and batteries they are a great option if you know how to optimize it. In winter I run my house on circa e1 a day from grid, 6c * 17kwh charged to batteries in 3 hours. Excess solar will be exported at 25c. In summer you can build up a lot of credit too. Its defo not for non pv/battery users as their standard rate is very high but the key to it is minimal draw from the grid outside of the cheap 3 hour 6c window. I do have 18kwh battery storage though so can cover pretty much any days requirements bar when the house load exceeds the inverters capacity at 5.5kwh. Their 1st couple of bills make no sense (will charge ya e300 but then once they have a few mths data a large credit hits up and it normalizes then, you have to keep e200 credit minimum on account and they have no problem paying excess credit back to your bank account. Its a niche offering that solar PV owners ideally with batteries can make the most savings on.

Looks like one of the Flogas offerings (Fixed Electricity [24.09c inc VAT] or Single Electricity 30% Discount [27.75c inc VAT] + €150 credit) will suit me best.

Just out of curiosity, what are people actually being offered from their Retention Team to stay with Energia?

I had a look through their Renew My Contract portal on my account and all that was offered was a paltry 25% off, for 31.99c (inc VAT) - which is a bad joke considering I'm currently getting a 41% discount from them. Even more so, when you factor in the 12% price increase in October.

So that risible offer for the next 12 months, would effectively be a whopping 42% price increase from last year's signup rate. Give over!

Their new customer offering isn't much better tbh (29% discount @ 30.28c) but at least that's almost, somewhere near market competitive.

Is that really the best they've got?

Just to be clear, the risible offer you referred to for existing customers is only 5% more than the 'near market competitive' offer for new customers. Also, base electricity prices have been rising recently so it's not fair to compare current plan pricing with that from last year.