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La Flamme Rouge **off topic discussion**

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I would say it is reasonable to remove anything not in regular use. My last employer would leave a label on anything with a warning it would be removed if not moved in 28 days. The sign usually only went on after a few months.

    Personally, I would have thought 3 months was a reasonable time frame but I am biased because I never leave locks as I don't trust someone not to interfere with them.

    How long did you leave it for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,828 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Might’ve been done when they were doing their deep clean

    https://x.com/dubcitycouncil/status/1929934621824655820?s=46&t=EzAvU7O51qn7Pk6HLURULw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,145 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,320 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I'm after having something of a brain zap. Not sure if it's a good or a bad one.

    Has anyone done the "Paris-Roubaix Challenge"?

    Is it treated as a race for those who didn't want to sacrifice their career as a teacher or accountant by becoming a full time cyclist, or more like a gran fondo type event?

    Am considering doing it with a friend as part of a 50th celebration for him. Neither of us could be mistaken as cyclists and while I do about 80km a week at the moment commuting, for health reasons I've not been out for a "ride" in months and nowhere near as much this year as I'd like. He rides weekly and did a couple of 100M'ers this past summer.

    But is it a casual event where such people are welcome, or is it something aimed at those with genuine cycling pedigree?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    A few of us did it about nine years ago. It is like a gran fondo in that there is a wide spread of abilities, including some very serious lads barreling through the course. However, the cobble sectors can be very rough and if there has been rain, very slippery too if the mud gets on them. There are trains of riders, particularly Belgian and Dutch who are entirely at home on such surfaces and will fly past you when you're trying to hold everything together and will try and take your line if its to their advantage so you need to be able to hold your place.

    I would say there is a "minimum cost of entry" in terms of fitness. It seems counter-intuitive but the best way to ride the cobbles is fast, as the bike tends to skip over the top instead of getting bogged down in the gaps so you'll need to have reasonable pace. On the road sections, you can back off and recover til the next sector.

    I was older than your friend when I rode it and its still one of the best days I have ever had on a bike. Just prepare yourself and your bike properly and you'll be fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Not the easiest question to answer.

    First off I found it a brilliant and very welcoming event, with all types of cyclists and bikes taking part.

    There are three lengths, 170km, 145km and 70km.

    The longest follows the last 170km of the actual race, whereas the other two are loops from Roubaix.

    Logistics wise the long end to end route is a pain. I heard cleats down the hall in hotel at 3am as lads were getting ready to get bus to the start line; any regret about not doing a the long disappeared there and then

    We chose the shorter 145km loop which has about 20 sectors of cobbles as against 30 or so on long route.

    If you are going to have an issue its not with elitism, the distance (assuming you can do some bit of training before then) its going to be with handling the cobbles.

    On the 145km route the first cobbles we met was the Arenberg; which is a 5 star sector was quite the introduction to cobbles. I was part of an official club who only ride bothrins/back road and we were all very comfortable on bad surfaces/off road but I don't think i ever experienced anything like that initial shock of hitting the Arenberg and going wtf are we doing here.

    Arenberg cobbles were damp to which didn't help. So much so I had my mind made up I was cycling back to Roubaix minus the cobbles if the threatened rain came. As it turns out it didn't and after that we had an absolute ball.

    We did it in 2018 and I used a nice tyre which measured 30mm or so and wide, at the time rims, so not near as tough as doing it on 23mm like the pros in Kellys time. Modern bikes with wide clearances and tubeless tyres allows for lower pressure again which is a big help with grip, comfort and control.

    The best advice I got was from @Mefistofelino here who said to ride the cobbles like intervals i.e. as fast as you could. I did and it was some craic although, after 20 intervals I was in some heap by the time we made the velodrome.

    If your health allows just do it. Best cycling event I ever did. Avoid gobsh!tes on mountain bikes especially with 800mm bars!

    In case of a collarbone or the like get EHIC before you go!

    https://www2.hse.ie/services/schemes-allowances/ehic/apply/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,320 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Thank you both for the detailed responses.

    Will put some more thought in to it.

    Was thinking about the 145km loop.

    Am having surgery next week and hopefully that will resolve health issues and allow me to put some training in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭gmacww


    Does anyone know why non club member CI membership is higher than being a club member? I've recently transferred out of a club and noticed my renewal is now €20 more expensive. Seems a very strange tiering to have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,384 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    That's been the case for decades, AFAIK. I think its to encourage people to get / keep involved with clubs as the backbone of the sport.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭gmacww


    Yeah I did consider that as a reason. First time renewing as a non club member so never saw it before.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    As above, it encourages club membership (except it doesn't as your club fees will dwarf the difference) but also there is an increased administrative workload that club secs take care of, which maybe minor but CI will do instead as the main points of contact for non affiliated members.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,438 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I think our club fees are 25 and you get some sandwiches at the prizegiving which probably covers the extra fiver!

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,563 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    would be interesting to see what the difference in average speeds is for people, between summer and winter riding.

    i can think of multiple reasons i'm slower; my winter bike is heavier and with the round steel tubes and mudguards, obviously is less aerodynamic.

    it's easier to exert yourself when you're warm - and cold air is more dense so will increase drag.

    roads are more likely to be wet and mucky, so i'd cycle slightly more conservatively on some roads.

    i bet someone has done research into how much wattage full winter leggings steal from you if they're made of a slightly stiff fabric…



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Well, for me going up the hill in Masseys today, reason was wheel spin. Gravel king slicks do not like the wet leaves on mud covering the place right now. Joking aside, I'd guess clothing is a big factor, extra windage, weight, particularly when drenched through. Also using energy to generate heat to keep the body warm which otherwise might go into the pedals. I had my slowest time in a long time heading up to the Hellfire club today but I'd guess calorie count was above average.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭Acquiescence


    For me it's the crushing feeling of despair that sets in annually in mid-October.

    I'd put it at 43 watts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Got me whistle 'n flute on for the cycling Ireland dinner and celebration. Selfies with Ben Healy and Lara Gillespie hopefully.

    Anyone else goin?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭gmacww


    GCN did a video on summer v winter a couple of years back. Taking everything you said into account I.e. bike, temp, denser air, slick road surface and add in some more. Winter spec tyres, baggier winter clothing i.e. less aero and also most are not in the same shape as in the summer from both weight and fitness levels. My own personal seasonal difference was big!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭cletus


    Anyone know where the thread on workplaces being cycle friendly went?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,563 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    The account which started it was banned; a ban usually results in content deletion, and that deletes threads if the user has started them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Yep, he was banned for a rather racist remark in a thread unrelated to the cycling forum. A nasty bit of work, with no interest whatsoever in cycling, just causing trouble.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,563 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    been a mess of a year for me, cycling wise. and for the last two weeks i've had this cold that's going round, and i'm still a bit chesty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Anybody manage to hit the holy grail of 20K on the bike in 2025?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    20k?? Yikes! Barely over 4k here, though had a slow start to the year and a month off the bike in Canada in August and also mostly hills and a fair amount of gravel.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,563 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Sadly not, had aimed for 17km but will fall 300-400 short.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Merry Christmas everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,297 ✭✭✭dinneenp


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    Spotted in Portlaoise.... park tour bike without anything to secure it to. What thought went into this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,438 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    is that not a location for hire bikes, we have similar green boxes painted around Greystones and Bray. Google tells me Bolt bikes are available in PL.

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