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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    John Bowman says her speech was not as widely circulated as is usually the case including to the press.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    How much did that red carpet cost that they've all just driven over with their wet tyres.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Watched some of it with my OH who supported CC, first thing she said when Connolly was walking down the aisle was "She should have shoulder pads".

    Now a man wouldn't get away with a comment like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Nothing wrong with her speech as far as I could gather, listening while driving. I wish her well in her role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Missed some of it, did she mention 'the climate crisis' or was it more green than Green?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Yes, she mentioned it, how more needs to be done through govt actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Shes right in that. The cost of living is gone through the roof, yet all the govt can come up with are taxes and grants that if applied for merely go into the contractors pockets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    How's 'government action on climate change going to alleviate the cost of living?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Seen as the election is over, I created a dedicated President Connolly thread:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    If you can't see that taxes on fuel putting up the cost of living is an issue then there's no point in having a discussion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I can indeed see it but you're the one who posted 'she's right in that' when I referenced her call for 'government action' to address the climate crisis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,966 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Yeah they ticked a box which says nothing about their beliefs, just a bit about their ancestry.

    Loads of people tick a box saying they can speak Irish fluently, too, when they clearly have no interest in it.

    We're supposed to have an inclusionary not an exclusionary State. That means no "this is a Catholic country" nonsense. Nobody is interfering with anyone's right to worship how they want, but the other side of that coin is you don't get to impose your religion on others - regardless of how many people tick a census box.

    The President (and Council of State) still have to take explicitly religious oaths to take office. That is quite simply wrong.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Regarding the criticisms of Ivan Yates , Irish Times opinion columnist Eileen Culloty argues it's an example of a wider phenomenon of an intersection between journalism and PR consultancy. She mentions several examples including Anton Savage who she says "writes for The Business Post and is a director of the Communications Clinic, a communications, media training and PR firm chaired by his mother Terry Prone." 

    I recall ex Newstalk presenter Chris Donoghue later became government Press Secretary in 2024 when Varadkar was Taoiseach. Currently a different person Paul Clarkson Clarkson holds that position and ex Independent journalist Hugh O'Connell, Brother in law of Kate O'Connell ex TD is his deputy as of January.

    I personally would prefer more a distance between journalism and political advisors.

    I think Coimisiún na Mean should do a more wide ranging investigation into this kind of thing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Not to be pedantic, but Hugh O'Connell is Kate O'Connell's brother-in-law, not husband.

    The closeness of journalists and politicians is understandable but some sort of firewall between the 2 to avoid them jumping from one to the other should ideally be there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    As she said I doubt Anton has trained anybody in years but he is still the manager of the CC, Johnathan Healy also has his own PR company now but still fills in on Newstalk occasionally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Are there different rules for traditional media and podcasts? Is there a double standard?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Theres a regulatory gap.

    The episode also highlights an emerging regulatory gap. Calling It, Newstalk’s election podcast with Yates, fell under Coimisiún na Meán. Inside Politics, as part of The Irish Times, is subject to the rules of the Press Council and Press Ombudsman. Path to Power, like other independently produced audio podcasts, is outside either system. Except when it’s also put out on YouTube. Go figure.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/media/2025/11/04/ivan-yates-controversy-shows-why-media-must-take-conflicts-of-interest-seriously/

    So does this mean the non-subscriber episodes are regulated but the audio only paid feed isn't.

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    So " they ticked a box" and it says nothing about their beliefs…just says a bit about their ancestry"..

    According to who exactly? You've just decided that the 69% of the people of this country who declared themselves as Catholic...are just ticking a box.…because you don't like it.

    Show us some stats/link there to prove they were ticking a box...and also some stats or a link to prove it says nothing about their beliefs...when it was direct question about their beliefs.

    Did all the muslims/Jewish/shikh/aethiests or whatever that make up the other 31% just tick a box too or is their answer valid enough for you.

    Neither you nor I get to decide whether a person's answer on the census is valid or true or is a box tick. You just don't like the result.

    And as for inclusivity….read your own post.

    Lots of religions were represented at CCs inauguration, but whether you or anyone else likes it or not, a sizeable majority of people still identify as Catholic in Ireland. You don't get to decide that or define it as box ticking or the reasons behind their choice as saying nothing about their beliefs and just their ancestry.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: this discussion looks to have moved away from the actual Presedential election so should it continue to discuss religion, Yates or whatever, I'll close this.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    The alternatives aren't being utilised by govts, including Ireland. There are grants for switching, but it is being gouged by contractors and indeed suppliers. Taxes seem to be their only avenue. This punishes mostly the ordinary citizen who are struggling with rising costs already. The measures, included in new housebuilds, can add up to 30% of housing costs. This is know because of doing these costings for builders and indeed self builders. Recently I costed a private workshop solar panel job, a modest one. €1800 grant included the cheapest quote available was €16000. I contacted a supplier without the grant possibility and received a quote of €12500. This supplier, fully registered, wouldnt do it for that quote with a grant included because of administration costs involved.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭Caquas


    I knew this thread would dry up once I left. Not because there is nothing more to be said (some posters here actually believe that 😫).

    Last week, Ivan Yates lifted the rock covering the media/politics nexus which no one in Leinster House wanted to discuss (one poster here thought accused me of "whataboutery" for making the same point😥).

    Fionnán Sheehan today highlights the fury in FF which has not abated after the Gavin Calamity. My guess - the much-anticipated FF report is delayed because MM doesn't like its recommendations, first among them being to take future nominations out of the leader's hands. FG may have to follow suit and give their members a genuine choice. FF (and FG?) might even give their local councillors free rein with Presidential nominations. Roll on 2032!

    Fionnán is wrong to say Simon taking Finance is a sign of MM's weakness (though there are ample signs elsewhere). On the contrary, it is a sign of Simon's insecurity i.e. Simon was afraid to give the job to anyone who could unseat him so he left a job he actually wanted and seemed to enjoy.

    But Fionnán is right to say Simon's move could cause serious problems for the coalition. Firstly, Simon should have stuck with Foreign Affairs to run the EU Presidency next year. Helen McEntee just doesn't have the political weight to handle the big dogs in Brussels.

    Secondly, Simon will only have Finance for two Budgets which means we will have had five Finance Ministers in as many years.

    Thirdly, the job of the Finance Minister is to say no to the over-spending Departments. Paschal can be blamed for almost doubling😳 total public expenditure since 2017 with very little to show. But he was fortunate that revenues were buoyant apart from 2020 (COVID). Simon's future now depends on him flashing the cash for FG Ministers but he must treat FF Ministers equally if he wants the coalition to survive.

    Of course the battalions of Political Correspondents and assorted media experts were caught completely unawares by Paschal's move to the World Bank. Just like when Leo went, and Eamon too and when Heather retired (oh, no wait….). And the pundits were just as useless about the general election (contrary to all the media, FF won, FG had its worst outing ever, the Greens were all but wiped out again). And who in the media got the referendums right? Of course none of those media geniuses have a clue about the World Bank/IMF. Paschal could have won an Oscar for all they could tell us.

    Sadly most of the opinions expressed here are on a par with those expressed by media pundits. And ideas run out when the circus moves on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @Caquas why do you think Pascal moved to the world bank, and Leo, Eamon (Ryan?) and Humphries "retired"?

    Who would you want to run Finance, I think Simon had little option TBH, but perhaps I am missing someone from the FG ranks.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,779 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Peter Burke was the main alternative discussed. Apparently being a chartered accountant qualifies him to handle global finance…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Paschal moved to the World Bank because he was sick of Irish politics. So was Leo but after the referendums he also saw that his time was up. As did Eamon Ryan who at least had a clear idea why he entered politics. Heather was astonished to be pulled back out of retirement - no one will ever again make her mistake i.e. think that FG can win the Aras (20% for, 60% adamantly against).

    Traditionally FG had more talent than opportunities but, after 14 years in power, you are right that the FG talent pool has never been weaker. However, that wasn't why Simon moved to Finance. Peter Burke was the obvious choice but Simon feels too vulnerable after his election failures to risk giving Peter a platform like Finance. (Patrick O Donovan is also capable but he's last person on earth that Simon would trust. Jennifer has yet to prove herself in Health but she could reach the top. Likewise, Martin. Helen? No.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭Caquas


    A lot more qualified than Simon, but that's saying nothing much



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    O'Donovan is a strange one, in some ways I am happy he's not moving from Communications, Culture and Sport.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I knew this thread would dry up once I left. Not because there is nothing more to be said

    Probably cause most of this has nothing whatsoever to do with the Presidential election?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,840 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Seoige has added a little more ammunition to the delayed FF report. Her selection in Galway West was a disaster too. John Connolly was pretty scathing of MM since the election. Why would MM worry about FF's selection process form the next presidential election. He will have nothing to do with it. Martin is just hoping the anger levels will reduce. You'd wonder when any of these clowns are going to do any real work.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭Caquas


    this is the kind of rubbish that made me leave Boards.

    I just wrote a lengthy post on a series of issues entirely related to the results of the presidential election, but this is your response!



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