Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

I don't understand the hand wringing over how we secure the border. These people aren't parachuting into the north or coming across the Irish Sea in canoes before slipping over the border. Get a deal in place with the British to put proper checks in place in ports and airports. Its in everybody's interests to turn people back as soon as possible.

In fairness its not just the prods who are at fault on this one.

O Neill doesn't want to see any checks on the border and for some strange reason our own government is reluctant to do anything about it either.

As for the Brits, they probably see it as a bit of a win if the migrants make their way over to Ireland and become our problem to deal with.

I accept we have a Labour shortage. But part of the solution to that should be upskilling and apprenticeships. We need to stop telling people that manual labour is something "low skilled".

Do we have labour shortages or is that just what employers want us to believe while we bring in cheap labour from the third world? Most staff that I see in the likes of supermarkets and fast food places are from the likes of India, where traditionally students would have filled those roles.

mehole flying all around the world and doling out our tax money to everyone and anyone who will pay him on the head and say what a good little guy he is.

No interest in the people of this country who have built it up since independence.we’re just all called far right

No offence but what do you expect from this charlatan (MM) ??They have invited him over there as he always brings the cheque book plenty of money to get browning points for anyone but his own country and people .. and he is most likely chasing a position with the UN after he’s kicked out of office here so it works to his advantage .

I’ve got to a stage where it’ makes me sick even looking at him. Always wants to be the passionate statesman talking with his hands!! Every word that comes out of his mouth is politicaly correct rubbish that he has been told to say by his advisors.

To think all the good that money and all the other money they gave away to make themselves look good to the world (Irish Tax payers hard earned cash) could have done here.

That money belongs to people who work hard and pay tax in Ireland and we did not give him a veto to give it away to the world we expect the taxes we pay for to be used for benefit of people who work for them. We have no idea who’s hands this money ends up in all I hear is this guy going to these summits and staiting that Ireland is committed to this and that !!!

For example If he was only that generous with our schools that would restore some of my faith. In my line of work I have worked with school principals who have to fight for every penny and they get this guy in god knows what country giving our money away to god knows who.. these self serving politicians are out at these summits commiting us to all types of globelist nonsense and it’s costing tax payers a lot of money to make themselves look good ..

We need strong leadership in this country leadership that will put Irish people first .Say what you want about Trump at least he puts is country first!!!!!! And these guys are going to get a shock if Farage ends up in Number 10!!!

imagine an Irish ICE

Have been saying it for years, MM has a great talent for speaking a lot without actually saying anything at all. His feigned stuttering and befuddled responses sound forced and ripped off from his most dubious predecessor, whom he lived in the shadow of and came out from under with nothing to his name but the smoking ban legislation, which he milked to oblivion for the guts of three decades…

With regard to the new immigration rules - reminds me of that simpson's episode where Apu is fighting for his citizenship, he jokes (upon being successful) that the first place he will go to is the social welfare office. Yet Ireland, so enriched with our own tax money, go beyond this joke and give social welfare to anyone and everyone who comes into the country regardless of their citizenship status. They literally feed the pie baked by irish and legal migrants and hand it to the most resourceful spongers of the planet (who, frankly, are no loss to their own countries, let alone ours).

Yet, people will still vote these charlatans back in election after election because their ancestral fear of change forces them to do so…

Our only hope we have is if Farrage gets into power in the UK !! and as our government know have and have told us we no veto on who our neighbours are !! We will have no choice but to align with our neighbour’s immigration decisions as it will have huge issues here with us been used as the UKs Rwanda.

As much I can’t stand Farrage I feel he is our only hope for these idiot Irish politicians to get there act together with illegal immigration and bogas asylum claims.

The only way we are going to stop this illigal immigration fascio is a no visa no entry system and it needs to be a solid UK/IE/NI agreement.

Like Australia if you arrive illegally in an illegal maritime vessel or other illgal means without a visa you will be detained untill your identity can be proven and your asylum claim will will be processed humanely in a detention centre offshore / onshore and after that released in to the community on a temporary basis untill your country is deemed safe or deported to your home country on rejection no matter your status if your a single man/woman or married couple etc with no chance of citizenship or permanent status unless you have passed a very stringent test to prove you will be of value to Irish or UK society.

Also we have a large group of well connected people politically and NGOs who are making a lot of money out of this and this needs to be addressed aslo.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rwandan-genocide-survivor-says-being-in-ipas-for-almost-a-year-is-like-prison/a1622642686.html

Then why is she in an IPAS centre, she should have applied for a work permit so she could come and work here, instead of using the refugee system.

This kind of **** really needs to be called out.

And of course the likes of Newstalk will give him free reign on the airways to spout this rubbish. Did they have anyone else on who was on the opposite side of the argument?

Not directing this at you @Patrick2010 but more in general, why the change of policy now from the government? Up till a short while ago anyone who was talking about the measures the government are now taking was called a racist, bigot or far right. Infact Martin said on Red FM radio when challenged by the presenter Neil Prendervile about "Open Borders policy" he said to Prendervile "Where's your humanity" and now we have Martin and that weasel Harris coming out to say they have never styfiled debate about immigration. Does anyone in the country still believe a word that comes out of their mouths?

To be fair, when he was interviewed by Pat Kenny on Newstalk a couple of years ago, Pat asked him straight out - "How many refugees have you taken in to your house, Nick?"

He got word salad as a (non) response.

Certain NGOs have an obvious economic incentive to promote open borders. Its more grants for them from the government. I personally think those grants need to more conditional.

I also think the Quango called IHREC should either be abolished (it was set up in the last government at the behest of the Greens) or abolished. It is suing the government to get a legal requirement to house every asylum seeker. The High Court backed them, then the Court of Appeal sided against them, and now the Supreme Court has agreed to hear it. They are citing the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.

I personally think that this has implications across the EU, and therefore maybe should be referred to the ECJ regardless of the Supreme Courts decision. Otherwise, Ireland could find itself one of few EU states obliged to house every comer who claims asylum.

I also have reservations about the use of the term "International Protection", because it implies that the person seeking it is in need of protection from some danger, which may or may not exist. I think only if a danger is proven should they allowed to apply for "International Protection".