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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭John arse


    That's a very good question, they seem to be updating their old models endlessly but must have something in the pipeline surely???🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    They have "something", which could also be nothing, ie another tweak to the 3 and Y.

    :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    I would love a 2 door tesla, no rear seat, decent range, smaller battery, good effeciency and easy to park and drive. Doesnt need to be fancy, get that for well under 25k and they will sell lots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭John arse


    There is a model 2 on the way ,oh hang on no there isn't - I don't think they even know themselves???😳



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭MojoMaker




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭John arse


    Yeah a fantastic car really and such a bargain as well, that's why I'd like the option of getting another!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭wassie


    Keep an eye on the Aussie Tesla store. They could well be likely to get the RHD M3 Standard first due to their proximity to China, which could indicate the RHD versions are on their way to UK & Ireland.

    In fact even Japan would be closer - but you would need to translate their site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭sk8board


    there are no new models planned. Tesla used to ‘suddenly’ announce a new model, so that always makes us wonder is there anything in the works, but it’s been 6 years now since the Y announcement, and 8 years since the 3, and nothing mass market since - ultimately Tesla is moving to robotics and Ai.

    I can’t imagine why they’d have a model 2 versus just having the M3 Standard for zero R&D cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭allybhoy


    I’m surprised Tesla hasn’t launched a proper SUV, something to compete with the Tiguan or BYD Sealion. I think it would be a huge hit. I know the Y and X are technically SUV's but they arent really competing in that space of soccer moms who want something that sits higher on the road. A design along the lines of Toyota’s Land Cruiser concept or the XC40 would sell in huge numbers in europe. Seems crazy to me to release a cyber truck that wont get approval for europe when your vehicle line up is so small.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭BestWestern


    That looks like a kia EV3



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭sk8board


    the good thing about the Y is that it covers a lot of segments, incl the Tiguan, and I guess you can still buy an X or the Cybertruck, in the US



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭sk8board


    record deliveries & revenue in Q3, but a 36% drop in YoY profits, car margins are 15%.
    I think analysts all have eyes on q4, the first quarter post US grants.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/1023/1540104-tesla-quarterly-results/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Model Y more than covers the Tiguan or Sealion market. They know what they're doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    FSD supervised beta v14 was recently released and it was very well received. Big step forward. It is not just very good and simply almost never needs intervention, it comes over as sentient. This is not my personal opinion, this is the general consensus from people reviewing it

    That said, Tesla have now announced a FSD beta v14 "lite", for HW3 cars. To be launched mid 2026. This is the first official statement from Tesla that more or less confirms that HW3 will not be good enough for FSD unsupervised, release version (fully level 5 autonomous driving where Tesla is responsible, i.e. unmanned robotaxis)

    This has implications. If Tesla will not go ahead and upgrade all HW3 FSD cars with HW4 FOR FREE as Musk has previously more or less promised, I can imagine there will finally be some serious class action lawsuits. It is amazing these haven't happened before, the typical Tesla FSD buyer must be incredibly patient and trusting in the delivery of the dream they bought into…

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    After all the bad news with the UNECE stalling and throwing up obstacles for years now preventing FSD from being allowed in Europe. It seems Tesla has bypassed them and charmed the RDW directly with this outcome 😮

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    RDW does EU wide type approval / homologation

    What does this mean in practice? Not sure yet, but it is likely that some or all EU FSD cars (likely only HW4 cars) will be allowed to use FSD at least in the Netherlands from February. Quite possibly followed by some or all other EU countries soon after

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Ive done the self park thing in my cars, its pretty disconcerting even at low speeds and I'm pretty sure I was concentrating even more on making sure the car wasnt going to do something silly.

    Also adaptive cruise control in stop go traffic isn't that bad but again, you're watching like a hawk

    Does anyone here think they'd use full self drive at higher speeds if it was legal? I dont think i would to be honest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 evftw


    I believe the experience on the standard Autopilot is not relevant here. It uses some age old the legacy software, that is not even based on the FSD that will be employed if you buy the actual FSD upgrade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,090 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I suspect that Buddy's concerns are more to do around the psychology of trusting any automated, computerised system with something of considerable value and or your well-being/life.

    I'm trying to think of anything similar in another area that we are willing to relinquish control and trust. eg Lifts, but they have mechanical fail safes, not computerised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Funny you mention lifts. Musk himself often uses lifts as an example. 100 years ago, lifts had lift boys operating them. But their behaviour was sometimes erratic, causing problems and fatal accidents. When automatic programs were developed that could operate lifts more safely and reliably, not only did people prefer to have automatic lifts, no, they demanded them

    Obviously lifts in shafts are infinitely simpler systems than cars on roads. But the analogy is interesting

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭wassie


    I'm trying to think of anything similar in another area that we are willing to relinquish control and trust. eg Lifts, but they have mechanical fail safes, not computerised.

    Think about where the actual term Autopilot originates from.

    People are blissfully unaware that their life is in the hands of a computer everytime you fly a commercial passenger aircraft.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,153 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    And of course even landing - the most dangerous part of a flight - has been done safer by computers rather than humans, for many decades. I'd agree with you that many people have no idea about this, hence the plebs clapping for the captain after a landing on holiday flights 😂

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 evftw


    This previously inexperienced passenger in AP car shows the anxiety well:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,090 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Most landings are manual.

    https://www.flightdeckfriend.com/ask-a-pilot/can-a-plane-land-automatically

    and I think this part is the most salient

    Yes, a passenger plane can land by itself using the autopilot through a system that is often referred to as ‘autoland’. The pilots can program the autopilot to carry out the landing automatically whilst the pilots carefully supervise the manoeuvre. However, there are limitations as to when the autoland system can be used and there are occasionally reasons which would stop a commercial jet landing automatically.

    Automatic landings probably account for less than 1% of all landings on commercial flights. Many pilots actually think it’s much easier to land the aircraft manually, as monitoring the auto-pilot in the autoland stage of flight is itself very demanding with a very high level of vigilance required at all stages.



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