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Peter McVerry Trust has 'financial issues'.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,505 ✭✭✭Patser


    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/11/20/peter-mcverry-trust-spent-money-on-peacock-enclosure-at-period-property-it-had-purchased/

    I know people here love to focus on Peter McVerry himself, but I mean how is Pat Doyle's name not foremost known for this debacle, he was CEO for 18 years and reading the article attached above!!

    Building a lift on his office so that he wouldn't have to see staff! Peacock enclosures! Transferring funds to the company he was leaving McVerry Trust, to join, just to make sure that company would have money for his salary - €350,000 worth.

    Fair play to his replacement Francis Doherty being willing to blow the whistle on this whole lot, despite being told by board he was not to contact anyone outside the Trust after raising immediate concerns. And now he's showing up to the Committee with all the receipts

    Post edited by Patser on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I just can't understand how people still give money to charities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,505 ✭✭✭Patser


    Oh and unsurprisingly, Pat Doyle has declined all invitations by Dáil Committee to answer questions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,633 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    that would be unfair. Just contrast this debacle with the wonderful kind work of the late Brother Kevin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,025 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The charity sector in Ireland is rotten. Not all of them, but there are far too many CEOs wives going around in fur coats and shopping trips to NYC, and far too many ego trips inefficiently duplicating each other's work.

    Unfortunately many of them get most of their funding from our taxes and we have no say in the matter. If it's not funded by voluntary donations it shouldn't be called a charity.

    It's really just a way of outsourcing what should be public services, providing insulation for the politicians and saving a few quid by paying the frontline staff less than they'd earn as public servants.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    They give them money because they want to support the work they do.

    It's not hard to do a bit of due diligence and find a well run charity to support.

    Easiest to start close to home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Pat734


    Not all charities are bad, but my goodness some of them are very, very, questionable and have a lot of questions to answer. I can easily understand some people saying they're rotten to the core and there's far too many of them registered. Even the RCC are in on the act and now sending out reminders to parishioners so they qualify through the tax route. It's wrong and the whole charity gig needs a lot of looking at, all of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,178 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    I can imagine a long time CEO going off the rails, I just don't know what the board members were up to, not checking up on the CEO.

    Post edited by expectationlost on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,633 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Not just the charity sector but boards of many orgs only get the info senior management decide to give them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    Homelessness is a very good business for many people so it is not in their interest to improve the situation. A great way of making a very lucrative living.

    Giving to charity is now a mugs game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,846 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Loads of decent people helping out by volunteering with charities. Many charities helping out needy people and doing nothing wrong. Bit unfair to blacken them all with one sweeping statement if that was your intention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭standardg60


    There's far too many of them falling over each other to help the same people in a clearly still very poorly regulated sector.

    It would seem the goal for a lot is to secure government funding to keep them in business and jobs rather than actually helping anyone. Most people have had enough with all the recent controversies to trust any of them hence the collapse in donations.

    With PMcV it looks like they spent every penny over bidding on properties simply to secure more funding instead of focusing on the services they were already providing, which then lapsed. Add to that the warehousing of debt due to Revenue during COVID which is bizarre given they were fully funded and it has all the signs of being absolutely recklessly run. No surprise when the CEO didn't even want to share a lift with the service users he was charged with looking after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭BettyS


    I like to give money to charity, particularly in the run-up to Christmas. What is the story with the AnPost care package for the elderly people?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭csirl


    I think that in most cases the civil servants would rather tender the various services contracts or deliver the services through normal public service channels. The problem is that the "charities" got there first and have the political ear and public sympathy.

    Could you imagine what would happen if D/Housing or DCC simply put providing homeless services out to tender or delivered them via an enhanced social welfare system?

    There would be uproar. All these charity workers losing their jobs, charities being put out of business etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Well worn pathway between the political field and the charity industry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Anyone can post letters, cards or parcels free of charge to a care home resident until 31/12/25.

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    Carepack.ie is a charity run by volunteers who will put you in touch with a resident.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭BettyS


    Thanks a million!!!! I think that they seem legitimate. Equally, I have bought some presents for the Giving Tree, organised by VdP. One thing that Ireland does well is charity and kindness to the misfortunate members of our society. I do not want these people to lose out because of the heinous greed of a privileged few. There are lots of people barely making enough to pay their bills. Every person should receive a Christmas present. It might be naive of me, but it makes me feel happy to be in the position to share joy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭BettyS


    oh no- carepack.ie are already all matched for 2025



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    The cost per 'customer' for the McVerry trust is 30,000 euro per year. It is huge, but hidden from the public. Even the civil service with all its inefficiencies would be hard pressed to justify spending 30k to put a roof over someone's head, what ever about all the dole and other supports received.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Have you ever been to one of these charity opening days, just after given a cheque from the tax payer without saying a "thank you" and they bad mouthing the state of the place and they "need more money for x,y,z project". Mean while all the ground workers are working flat out, the Executives are making money hand over foot. Prime example Angela Kerins, Rehab industries, that Shine crowd all embezzling the hole out of every expense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,846 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    There are many smaller charities that get no money from the Government. I support my local Lions Club who do great work in my area for both old and young. They are the only charity I think where the members actually pay a yearly sum just to help. Round Table and Rotary Clubs are also helping without Govt funding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    You give to charities you know and trust people in. I give to charity but there are ones that I know that look outwardly nice and shiny but are run vicious blood suckers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Once you start taking government money you let them in the door and they start dictating terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Not to worry, put them on the calendar 📆 for next year.

    It's good to give at this time of year and every little contribution helps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Why any resident of a nursing home in Ireland is in need of a care package is beyond me. If you're minded to give why not drop down to your local asylum seeker centre with it instead? Be far better received.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,025 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    30k per person per year is crazy.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,835 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Not particularly, when you consider just how damaged many of the clients are, and how much wrap-around support they need to function even minimally.

    "Homeless" generally means a lot more than without a house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,835 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Of course the normal day to day needs of care home and nursing home residents are met by the homes at Christmas the same as the rest of the year.

    The carepack project is just arranging for them to have a little contact they might not otherwise get during the festive season.

    There is no money involved except the cost of what you put in the parcel. It could be a homemade item ie. Knitted scarf or a small box of chocolates.

    Carepack.ie is not a registered charity and does not accept donations. An Post provide delivery free.

    https://carepack.ie/

    Your idea of reaching out to IPAS centre residents is a good one too but it's not a case of one or the other.



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