Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Preston Stewart predicts Ukrainian will reject Trumps plan, though a "soft no".

The only good thing about the 28 point plan is the $100bn for rebuilding Ukraine. The problem is that most of the frozen Russian assets are in Europe and the US can't compel this. Also what happens to the remaining hundreds of billions frozen mostly in Europe? Does it go back to the oligarchs?

Those who are sceptical Russia is planning more invasions should listen to what Gurolyov has said on Russian State TV about all the countries they are going to invade. This is really 1930s carry on. We will be here again in future, probably in the Baltic states, Moldova, even Poland.

Its true they are rearming but when it came to the 24 Russian drones that recently crashed or were shot down in Poland, only about 4 were shot down, and those were by fighter jets costing millions, compared to drones costing $10000. NATO needs to wake up on the drone threat. There is a tendency in western history to fight the last war, such as France in 1940 thinking it was going to be like World War 1 trench warfare and not anticapting the importance of tanks.

It might not be made public all the time, but NATO is absolutely waking up to the threat of drones. The idea that's already been mentioned of making a 'drone wall' (basically a system of radars, sensors, jamming and weapons systems to detect incoming drones) is the first start.

Across Europe you've also got tons of new companies or existing ones being switched to either producing drones for Ukraine or improving the EU's own drone set ups.

Reports Witkoff has never once visited Ukraine.

I’d go further and say they should be seen as a hostile country given Trump’s backing of Russia

Exactly, no one wants a trojan horse in their country who may ally with your invader and turn their guns on you.

Is Dan Driscoll tending toward a promotion to Secretary of War? This suggestion may be a propaganda fake news item from the Dem side of the argument.

Seen as a Vance-ally.

But have they really? Like, what's the alternative for Ukraine?

Doesn't answer the question though

"France and private companies also have spy satellites"

We need this to be true (and sufficient)

I have heard that the loss of US intelligence would hit Ukraine hard(as well as dragging US's reputation further into the pigswill)

maybe Trump can hand back Alaska to Putin as a sign of good faith .

Could not agree more. It will take us time to wean off the US from a defense standpoint. But it's quite clear that that is exactly what we need to be doing. If there was any doubt about it this latest act of backstabbing of its allies by the Americans when it comes to this sell out to the Russian dictatorship euphemistically called a peace plan leaves no doubt that the days when any of us in Europe can trust the Americans to be allies and partners are over. The Americans simply cannot be trusted in fact even worse than that they have shown again quite clearly they will happily stab so called allies in the back whenever they feel like it and cozy up to dictators.