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Issues with work colleague

  • 18-11-2025 04:23PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16


    I am with my current job 20 years with a clean work record. In the last two years its become a toxic work place over one individual. She is on the same team as me and the dynamics of the relationship with the team leader and her for want of a better word is dependent. She can’t answer an email/question without running it through the team leader. She can’t multitask or work under pressure so the simplest tasks are given to her and I pick up the rest causing me to feel a little resentful but this is the norm now. I can get over all of that but her attitude and manner is something I can’t and it’s got a whole lot worse. When the team leader is off I cover she won’t take instruction from me, the team lead has to leave her a list and won’t away from it. She can be passive aggressive towards other members of the team and one has left and expressed he left over her. It was swept under the rug. Any time she gets a pulled up she goes sick or requests to work from home.

    Recently there has been major drama over aircon. She cries she is too cold, marches around stand under vents, wearing hats and scarfs. Over reacting basically. One day she was complaining and I said I’m not cold so I want my vent left on this was ignored and she got the vent off anyway and I was roasted. I expressed this but management then saw my push back as ‘drama’. The aircon complaining has caused such a toxic atmosphere.
    Last week me and a work colleague were talking and a message came into the group chat saying ‘what are the bitches talking about’. I showed the work colleague an she immediately raised it with management. She was spoken to by the manager and went sick the following day and wfh for the rest of the week leaving me in the office alone. This is what she does every time her behaviour is addressed.
    My manager is more annoyed I told the work colleague who complained than what she said in the chat. In her words ‘she’s an innocent person dragged into it’ she didn’t say this to me but to someone else.
    After 20 years I feel I have no one to turn to, they seem to pacify her and keep her happy despite the bad behaviour and I am lumped into the same category. I’m at a loss as to what to do. If I raise it I’m seen as causing drama but if I don’t it’s eating me alive. Please help



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    Can you not request working from home? It’s great when you are dealing with clowns like that - you can just take an age to reply to them via messages / emails and never really have to tolerate their crap.

    I feel for you though - we all have enough real life personal problems to deal with day to day without dealing with someone’s childish BS day in day out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 zizi03


    thanks Thomas. She has got in there before me and is working from home this week after been pulled up on the Team message. Management do not take me seriously and think I have a vendetta against her. I have always remained professional and civil as I know she is dangerous and would cry bully. I just don’t have a trusted manager to go to. Another work colleague did try to raise it and was told ‘ah she’s not that bad, do u have a problem with her?’ So it’s been turned on it head. I’m actually at a complete loss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭CuriousCucumber


    I'd talk to management, especially if there is more than one of you who struggle to work with her.

    Go to the meeting with a list of ways to help her improve, i.e. recommend she gets training, or perhaps a move to another department, to see if she could improve in a new environment

    Have a list of the main issues going into the discussion with management, but run it past others first, and make sure you have support for all of the items you want to highlight - ignore the thermostat one

    Focus on her inability to work independently, and that she wont take direction from others and highlight the message where she referred to you and a colleague as "bitches"

    You have the right to be treated with respect in all work environments. Been called a bitch, is not acceptable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I think you doing the grunt work is actually the straw that breaks the back here - I wouldn’t for a second accept that! Maybe if she has to do the work she’s paid to do it might give her less time to be a menace in the office.

    What line of work are you in broadly speaking?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 zizi03


    it’s the financial services. I have raised issues before and I’ve been talked down. I think the issue is the team leader convinces the manager it’s not as bad as I’m making out. I’ve worked with my manager and team leader for the last 20 years and feel completely betrayed by them. She is with the company 2 years and she is causing havoc but I am the one causing the drama by reacting to her behaviour. It’s such a head f***. Her behaviour speaks for itself but they just for whatever reason refuse to see it. The bitch comment was glossed over and it was me causing trouble by telling my other work colleague. I don’t feel comfortable raising it as in my experience it gets me no where



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭CuriousCucumber


    Then ask to move to a new team



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 504 ✭✭✭ax530


    This could be a good one to run by ChatGPT asking it to give you advice from managers, team leader and HR perspective mentioning you are based in Ireland.

    It can then be helpful knowing the angles to bring up with each person.

    Specific examples would be useful and I guess possibly get it in writing/email to them.

    Worth checking if this would fall into constructive dismissal, any mention that you getting advice on that or how to deal with issues will probably make them all liste

    Sorry to hear you are facing these issues, my work environment not good at moment either it is draining



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭black & white


    This could have been written by me a couple of years ago, I ended up leaving although to be fair it wasn’t the only reason. That person is still there causing the same problems and all management are doing is waiting for their retirement. I wish you all the best, I’m glad I’m out of that environment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Rmgblue


    I also could have written this. I’ve no advice. It gets worse by the day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 zizi03


    I think if they dealt with the problem employee things wouldn’t be so bad. It’s like they pacify and keep her happy at the detriment of me. I see her for what she is and call out her behaviour so I become the issue. It’s such a horrible place to be especially when I’ve given 2 decades of my life



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Honestly, it seems to me they value her more than you and your 2 decades of work.

    Life is too short to be dealing with that, would you not look for something else? Maybe if they knew you were leaving then they might reconsider things



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭headtheball14


    document the incidents, at the moment you are more of a problem complaining than she is causing problems. take note and tie this into direct outcomes.

    x did y so I couldn't complete my work

    at the same time look at how you are presenting things. just raising issues as they arise doesn't seem to be working

    the atmosphere does seem toxic .sometimes the smart thing is to realise you are just banging your head against the wall and focus your energy on getting out..I did a few months ago and delighted. I've enough experience now to know when things are worth fighting for ..is this job worth it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,735 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Get a couple of desk thermometers. Keep a record.

    Pick up all the easy tasks and leave them with the hard ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭CrazyEric


    Either you move on or she does. You decide who.

    I am usually against direct actions but, start calling in sick and go to the doctor with Stress, raise your complaints with HR and not managers, they have proven they wont do anything. Document everything no matter how trivial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    the correct answer to that is “yes, I do have a problem with her behaviour and here is a list of examples and how/why…” and here is how it’s effecting the performance of the team/business



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    the bitches comment in a group chat stuns me as I think any where I’ve worked she’d be heading for the door for that alone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 zizi03


    she claimed the bitch comment wasn’t about us and asked for us to prove it so it’s her word against mine. She always seems 10 steps ahead. It’s nighttime again and I have that dread. A reputation I built 20 years been torn apart in an instant makes me shudder



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    regardless of who it was even about it’s entirely inappropriate language to use about a group of people in a work context.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,735 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Someone in there has her back. She's is a friend or relation of someone.

    The OP needs to stop complaining about them, and just let someone else deal with them. Stop picking up here extra work. If the office gets too hot, just walk out and get some air. Keep a record of the temps. Just ignore them. They will eventually start annoying someone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    OP is far too soft- taking on the more difficult work is only providing cover for her and rewarding her behaviour- stop doing that immediately- the best tonic for the likes of her is to allow her expose her incompetence particularly to outside parties like customers where she won’t have a leg to stand on. You admit yourself “it’s the norm now”- but you have partly allowed that situation to develop



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,810 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    "especially when I’ve given 2 decades of my life".

    This is not a good place to be in!

    What you have is a job, a way to earn the money you need to provide for your family. But it sounds like you have made it into far more than this in your mind, like a vocation or something. That is not healthy. It might be ok if you were a senior manager with shares - but if you were, you would have the power in this situation.

    Like a poster said above, this women is being protected by someone. Maybe she's sleeping with a manager. Maybe she's a relative of the manager or a director or something. You will NEVER win fighting against this.

    You need to take control of your happiness and find a new way to make your living. Maybe you could change teams, maybe you need to do something more drastic.

    And yes, this is unfair. Life's like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 zizi03


    The work split is done by the team leader by email weekly. There is no conversation it’s down in writing what I’ve to do and what’s she’s to do. I’ve spoken to the manager about my concerns regarding her but it’s twisted into a personality clash so I feel silenced like I’ve no one to go to.
    I keep thinking I’m going to be called in and have this twisted on me. There is no lengths she won’t go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭Staplor


    Oh I've been there. I came to realise the boss was never going to do anything about it. It's more hassle to deal with the toxic person than it's worth to the boss.

    So for years I decided to expect nothing from her, if she answered the phone I could view that as something I didn't have to do and could be genuinely thankful to her for that. Eventually I saw sense and left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭notAMember


    I would look at this another way entirely. This is a golden opportunity to make yourself look absolutely amazing in comparison to a total steaming dud. How often does this come along, it's on a plate for you! Ching ching on those performance evals, particularly if you are in a corporate financial services environment. This is a ticket to a chunky raise.

    You need to get your thinking cap onto shaping this so you shine bright in your abilities to do the complex tasks without micromanagement, and she looks like the twit she is, causing drama and strife everywhere. Drop mirroring/reacting to her oddities with management emails on aircon, and instead be breezily uber-professional while she is acting the utter trivial maggot.

    Then use your annual/biannual review or performance evaluation to point it out as well, talking about how you undertook the complex challenging tasks no other team members could manage etc. Get written feedback in emails where you help people (I mean, if someone compliments your work, thank them and ask them to send an email with that in it, ccing your manager). Give written feedback to colleagues on how they supported you with such-and-such complex task, always highlighting how fabulous you are. She won't have a spec of that, and you will look magnificent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 zizi03


    believe me NotaMember that’s the tactic I tried. All year I went above and beyond working hard but all gone unnoticed. She does the bare minimum and is praised. Any time I raise an issue it’s talked down and I’m told ah she’s just quirky, she loves flattery. I’m left feeling deflated and shot down.
    The lack of work ethic I can get over as that’s on her. It’s the nastiness and the behaviour of her way or no way that I can’t tolerate. The team leader is the one protecting her. She is making out she is not as bad as she is as she doesn’t want to manage her properly or can’t manage her properly. Addressing how bad she is exposes her too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Eldudeson


    It's been said before, but take a step back and document everything. When your words are being twisted, you need to have in writing what you're saying so they can't be taken the wrong way. Also as has been said before, ChatGpt is a great tool. Put whatever document you write into it and you will get great advice on how to word things and especially how to not word things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 604 ✭✭✭sbs2010


    Just do your own tasks so, and ignore her.

    Let the team leader deal with her under performance.

    If she asks you for help, ask her to send that ask in an email so you can show later how much support you gave her.

    And as for the air con stuff, in my place every floor has a different temp. Different areas of same floor have different temps.

    Bring a jumper and just swap in on or off as you need to. If its unbearably hot or cold, stay at home and say the office is too hot/cold.

    If they demand you come in, go on 2 weeks stress leave to put manners on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭csirl


    If you are an experienced employee who's built up good skills, it's much easier to move to another job than to fight this. Maybe even use it as the impetus to try and move onto something better.

    In reality, you"re not battling against her - you',re battling against management, which is a battle you cant win.

    In the end of the day, if management want to carry unproductive and disruptive staff, that's their perogative. But it comes with consequences i.e. good employees, like yourself, will leave and ultimately they'll be left with an unproductive mess which wont be good for their own careers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    well you need to seize the initiative here and sit down with your boss and go through the task allocation concerting you, I wouldn’t even mention the other person unless it involves some kind of direct collaboration -weekly as necessary.
    Any where I’ve worked with we have weekly or more team meetings to discuss such things- it might be handy for the manager to just send you out lists of tasks but that rarely works for more complex things



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 zizi03


    thanks for all the helpful replies.
    I am in the office alone as she has sited wfh reasons god knows what they were I wasn’t told but the other girl on the team is on annual leave all week too leaving it just me to cover.
    I haven’t heard a word from her all week and I’m getting nervy she’s twisted this on me.
    I don’t know how I should be with her when she’s back. I’m p***ed off she’s left me in the lurch and also still p***ed off about the comment on the Teams chat. It’s sucks sh** show



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