Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

He'll survive it no matter what. 1st off, its almost impossible to get rid of a POTUS in office. 2nd, the only thing that will derail Trump is the loss of MAGA support.

The biggest issue Trump has is the loss of his power of the GOP. If they don't fear him, and his MAGA base, then he becomes a lame duck POTUS. That is the thinking behind the talk of running again. It isn't about running again, its about creating the impression that he is still relevant, and this must be listened to.

You'll quickly have the likes of Vnce etc out running campaigns once it is clear that Trump is no longer a runner.

And we all know that Trump hates being irrelevant.

Knowledge that Epstein (Rapestein would be a nice name for the execrable PotUS) was trafficking underage girls should be enough to permanently cement his reputation -participation is not necessary imo.

Here is hoping his downfall from here on in can be our Mme Lafarge moment (was she one of the tricoteueses at the guillotine?)

edit: Mme Defarge (and she was fictional it seems)

Mme Lafarge was another person that Putin might have found a use for.

add to that Schumer is a useless old plodder

Jasmine Crockett and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez seem to be the only ones with a pair of cojones on them. They are afraid of no-one.

There's no direct evidence though. There's nothing strong enough to enable someone to say conclusively that he raped children. There'll be plenty of circumstantial stuff but there's enough ambiguity for anyone to just say that he didn't do it. Same with Mountbatten as things stand.

The Democrats can't make Trump stronger. It's an odd claim to make. How would they do that, even?

We all know what he is now. There's no ambiguity with regards to his character. Anyone who defended him yesterday will defend him tomorrow.

He spun his way out of insighting an insurrection.

Clearly *he* thinks there is enough in the files to sink him, and he knows what is in the files, so I think that proves the content important enough...

I think people seem to care less about democracy than the chance to stigmatize others for what is almost universally accepted as deviant and repugnant behaviour.

I don't see the stain washing off if he was any way complicit or lacking understanding of the depravity of what happened.

Hope I am proved right.

Asterisk, for emphasis.

One must also consider, in addition to what is in the files, what he will do to prevent their release.

Arguably, he may be driven to do something that might sink him in circumstances where the content might not.

Desperation brings recklessness.

There's times I think that Chuck Schumer is a Republican plant.

His mind is deteriorating, he is going to lash out like this more and more in public in the coming months. He won’t be in office this time next year.

There's too many people placing too much hope in these Epstein files as if they're going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The thing is, if there's nothing solid in them connecting Trump to using underaged girls, then nothing will happen to him. NOTHING.

And if he's saying "yeah, release them", and it comes to pass that there's no definite evidence he'll just use it as a victory, claiming that the Democrats were just out to get him, like he's done with every court case he's been involved in.

Trump is a slippery eel and one who's been extremely careful in covering his tracks. Sure, there's been slip ups here and there. But they're never enough to do him in, not even with the majority of Republican voters, never mind MAGA clowns.

Think about that. The man is an adjudicated rapist, guilty of sexual assault, a proven fraud and one of the most corrupt individuals that has ever walked on the planet with a long history of fucking people over…and still Republican voters gave them their X. If and when it transpires that there's no damage to him from releasing the Epstein files, it will only end up strengthening him.

I would disagree that he's been careful. He's just never, ever held to account by anyone. The tabloids of New York made him out to be a character and that just stuck. Even when he ran a casino into the ground, he convinced the governor of Georgia to refuse Deutsche Bank the licence if they repossessed it, making them worthless if they foreclosed. That's just one example.

The rest of your post I agree with. MAGA worship him as a God and it means that what's in the Epstein files ultimately doesn't mean much. We know he's cancer in a suit but for some people this is what they want.

I've got to the point in this debate about Trump and his presidencies that I can split what he did before he became president and what he has avoided doing since he became president into two segments.

The first segment are his unlawful sexual activities. No one worth his or her salt can stand and say with truth that those activities have to be taken as part of a duality while considering if he is now a fit person to serve as the President of the U.S. and say that as that president, he must be obeyed above all.

His post-election presidential activities are the second segment. IMO, as stand-alone activities, they should have been enough for the GOP to take him by the scruff of his collar and eject him from the office of the president as a thundering disgrace. He never, from day one in 2016, had any loyalty towards the U.S., it's future and its citizens.

One's vote is to determine the future of the country one lives in as a citizen and not to suit the privileges of the character Trump has revealed himself to be since 2016. He is not worth the salt of any other U.S. citizen, adult or child.

Trump has deserted the loyalty oath he swore to the people of the U.S. He disgust's me.

The Saudi prince is is the Oval Office and is not wearing a suit!!! Shock horror - NOT. That sort of abuse is just reserved for presidents of invaded countries -

America it seems is red hot - Looks like Trump is selling that hot property to any passing Sheik.