Hyundai INSTER

"MCRA"

Make Cars Reliable Again !

ICCU issues are world wide and I believe there is a big shortage of spares.

It's incredible Hyundai/Kia still have issues after so long, absolute joke and a big turn off.

I've had bad experience with Kia dealer I won't care to mention because I still have to get the car serviced there while under warranty. I had called around a few other Kia dealers the last time I needed a service and they told me there was 3 month waiting list and a Dublin dealer said they do this to prioritise the people who regularly buy cars off the dealer.

Sheehys in Carlow town were far better to deal with and offered me courtsey cars whether ICE or EV but Kia never offered me a courtsey car not even for the 5 days they had the car for a timing chain replacement under warranty. Where as Sheeys in Carlow would offer me a car even for a service.

I'd definitely think twice about getting a Kia or Hyundai again.

But, hey, once all the big screens work inside the car that's all that matters lol.

I never had such issues with the Lead, BMW i3 Rex or the VW id3, the id3 was plagued with software issues which were unbearable + a fogged up headlight that couldn't be solved….. but no issues with drivetrain, battery , chargers etc but you wouldn't expect it either on cars up to 3-5 years old.

Hyundai/Kia have been having issues for a good few years now, in the USA they were plagued with engine issues, still are I believe, the ICCU issue, the Kona -E-Nrio transmission eating itself which if left unresolved woult eventually take the motor with it, a very expensive repair.

This is why I said I want a car that is not a computer or as lass a computer as I can find, a car that is not so heavily dependent of software and screens. I just want a car to get from A to B not some entertainment centre on wheels.

Gone are the days car companies cared about quality, these days the only thing they seem to want is to rip us off to make investors happy and quality isn't a concern because shareholders don't care about the name or reputation of a company.

Tesla even made it near impossible for people to escape burning cars because they were too cheap to include a door handle on the inside ? WTF ? absolutely unbelieveable, yet people still buy them. I believe the only way to unlock the doors was via some kind of mechanism behind the front seats on the floor something like that, it was bizzare they could sell a car like that and pass regulations. I'm not sure if this is related to only one model, think it was they Y or whether it effects other models.

Nissan are in around 5 Billion Euro's in Debt, the new leaf looks like it was rushed in a bid to gain sales, I dont' like the look of it and they went on the big screens far less buttons and knob option thinking this is what people really want but in reality people just want cheaper reliable cars, of course we're told that noone wants cheap cars any more but removing cheap cars for expensive cars doesn't give people the choice so just saying people don't want cheap cars when there is no alternative is false.

Many of these auto journalists are just doing a job, it's a source of income, few nights away from the Wife , Kids all paid for. lol, I haven't heard any of these journalists mention these issues of course, but, is their job just to review the car as it is there and then ? it would be nice if they gave follow up information as to issues that become known, common etc but as you say, they wouldn't get invited to these events if they did.

You'd probably be surprised how many people knew about the ICCU issues and decided to still go ahead and buy the effected Kia/Hyundai cars just because they like it , because they got a warranty, and yeah, a warranty is all nice and dandy until you have to go to the dealer……..then reality bites, it's not fun and games any more.

If baffles me as to how they can't redesign the ICCU ? I supposed though, now even more so , paying investors is far more important than the quality of the product, too much reliance on tech to design stuff, comuter says it's good, lets go with that…..

I remember watching a youtube video about a TV company back in the 1950's and the level of detail that was put in every bit of the TV from how it sounded to the design of each component and the Picture tube to all the other vacume tubes or valves as we call them here. It was an eye opener, many of these companies would have been privately owned and had pride in their product and most of the components were designed by a human without computers, made by Humans and all wired up together in the chassis by Humans and they could pay all these people a decent wage and still make a quality product, the same effort went into Radios and cars.

Do we blame capatilism or consumerism or both ? maybe people should just stop buying new cars and let the manufacturers and their share holders **** themselves for a while.

I was asthonished to hear about the Tesla door handle issue where people were burned alive in cars because they couldn't open the door when the 12v or is it 48volt system failed because Tesla though having a mechanical door handle was too old tech for their electric cars …. I mean do people not have any cop on any more ? do we need microchips and computers to do everything for us ? tell us , no this is a bad design people could get killed. The E.U think that making cars with more and more tech can compensate for the appaulingly low standards of driving these days which is often a direct result of adding more tech either through infotainment or believe in the likes of adapative cruise control and adaptive steering can prevent crashes while they look at whatever crap they're into on tiktop or Netflix. Over regulation of the Auto industry by the E.U isn't going to prevent road deaths. Proper training, eliminating distracting tech and proper concequence for stupidity is the only answer.

Sometimes I wish I were back in the 1990s.