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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,056 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    All the Epstein gang sticking together it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    This is how Ireland has responded to the genocide

    https://www.mary-black.net/video.php?id=64&autoplay=0

    This is the genocide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    The US is warning UN countries to support its Gaza plan or else …

    The United States has called on the United Nations Security Council to officially back its draft resolution aimed at bolstering President Donald Trump’s Gaza peace plan, warning that Palestinians could suffer “grave consequences” if it does not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Everything is for the purpose of ethnic cleansing which the West is supporting.

    The deputy speaker of the Knesset has said that Meir Kahane, an ultranationalist rabbi who called for the expulsion of Palestinians from Israel and whose Kach movement is still banned as a terrorist organisation, was right.

    Nissim Vaturi, a member of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, made the remarks during a parliamentary debate on Wednesday in which he also criticised former Likud leaders for refusing to engage with Kahane.

    Challenged by other MPs that Kahane was a terrorist, and asked if he supported “Jewish terror”, Vaturi replied: “I support it. Believe me, Kahane was right in many ways where we were wrong, where the people of Israel were wrong.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Tlaib and others taking a stand….


    U.S. House Representative Rashida Tlaib, along with 20 other lawmakers, introduced a resolution declaring that the Israeli government has committed genocide against the Palestinian people in Gaza.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    The irony of his criticism of Mamdani…

    "it's not good to be an alleged War Criminal (at large)"



    • When asked whether accepting a pardon would imply guilt, Netanyahu said, "I certainly won't do that; that's not going to happen." 
    • In the interview, he issued his most direct critique of NYC Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani, saying, "it's not good to be a young, uneducated leader."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    "The most moral army in the world" - except when sodomising prisoners and having the cctv evidence released…

    Corruption is rife within the World Pariah.


    Lawyers for five soldiers charged with allegedly abusing a Palestinian at the Sde Teiman detention center during the war asked the Beit Lid military court on Thursday to drop the charges against them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    amputations, malnutrition, bombings, drones - still part of daily life in Gaza.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,578 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Seems to be plenty of opposition to the Trump / Blair administration plan in the security council as well as many other points they want. After blocking the whole process for two years the US do seem very keen to push this through quickly. A vote is planned for next week.

    Plenty of details on what it all involves below

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,687 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Nice to see you taking a break from supporting child killers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    How inept can the EU be?

    As evidence piles up of Israel’s flouting of international law and humanitarian norms, Europe engages in a kind of ritual rhetoric, without taking action. The refrain — “We are reviewing our trade relations with Israel and may contemplate suspension of our trade agreements” — is a diplomatic cliché devoid of urgency or consequence.

    Not only is Europe’s posture ineffective, but it also reflects a deeper moral failure. Invariably, economic interests, historical guilt, and strategic alliances override the principles Europe proclaims.The European Commission recently suggested the suspension of trade concessions and the sanctioning of extremist Israeli ministers on account of breaches of human rights obligations under the EU-Israel Association Agreement. Yet, even this was partial and conditional. The EU’s foreign policy chief, Kaja Kallas, acknowledged: “We will contact Israel to present our findings and look at how we can improve the situation on the ground”—a statement that epitomizes delay and deflection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Thank for that link, it really is disgusting.

    "The US and Israel are trying to consolidate their colonial land grab in Gaza through a UN Security Council resolution that would impose an international force under US command and Israeli collaboration to reinforce the Gaza cage, disarm the Palestinian resistance, establish foreign colonial governance over Gaza, and compel Palestinians to beg for their rights with their oppressor. The co-perpetrators of the genocide are seeking UN authorization to take over the lives of the survivors and normalize the status of the perpetrators. Russia and China must stand firm against this abomination, and the UNGA must move now under Uniting for Peace to provide protection for Palestine and accountability for the Israeli regime."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,578 ✭✭✭brickster69


    As i understand, if passed as is, could basically null and void all previous resolutions on the Palestinian question because it takes away UN jurisdiction and passes authority over to the Trump / Blair administration, which could be renewed every couple of years if the transition does not happen.

    Anyway, looks like Monday is set for the two votes. Possibly both get voted down then who knows what happens.

    https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/11/15/un-security-council-to-vote-on-trump-s-gaza-plan

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    This is the group that allegedly organised the mysterious charter planes bringing Palestinians to South Africa.

    https://almajdeurope.org/work

    There are suggestions that the company makes a profit by organising emigration from disaster areas. In this case, find some passengers with the money, get Israel's assistance, get the plane to land somewhere, and bingo - a profit.

    https://asiapacificreport.nz/2025/11/15/australian-author-says-shadow-gaza-transit-scheme-company-is-operating-disaster-capitalism/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭dePeatrick



    Dozens of Palestinian prisoners are being held indefinitely in an underground Israeli detention facility, deprived of sunlight and subjected to extreme violence, Palestinian lawyers say, as more reports of abuse emerge from the devastation of Israel’s war on Gaza.

    Lawyers for Palestinians held at Rakevet, an underground wing of the Ramla (Nitzan) prison complex in central Israel, said their clients have been assaulted, starved, and denied medical care despite serious injuries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Saudi pissed at Israel - which wouldn't normally be news. But are they getting ready for something bigger?


    Saudi Arabia's foreign ministry issued a "strong condemnation and denunciation" of violence against Palestinians in the West Bank by Israeli authorities and settlers.

    President Trump said on Friday that he is considering agreeing to a deal to supply Saudi Arabia with F-35 stealth fighter jets , adding that he hoped Saudi Arabia would soon join the Abraham Accords and normalize relations with Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Landgrabbing at its finest:


    A survey conducted by the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) last month found that a wall built by the IDF crosses the Blue Line, the de facto border between the two countries, a UN spokesperson said on Friday.
    Stephane Dujarric, the spokesperson for the UN secretary-general, said the concrete wall erected by the IDF southwest of Yaroun has made more than 4,000 square meters (nearly an acre) of Lebanese territory inaccessible to the local population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Fat chance of an enquiry with alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) leading his country into the pits of hell.

    Israelis are protesting across the country on Saturday evening to call for a nonpartisan state commission of inquiry into the October 7 attacks.

    Among those slated to speak are former Police Commissioner Roni Alsheikh and retired Supreme Court Justice Elyakim Rubinstein. In Tel Aviv, the main protest will call for the return of the three bodies of hostages still held by Hamas in Gaza.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    The issue of the Settlers is the next big thing…

    "The IDF officers on the ground [in the West Bank] don't suffer from political naivety.

    They realize that this Jewish terrorism [by settlers against Palestinians] is operating as it is because the perpetrators believe that the messianic right in the governing coalition has its back.

    The three years of this government, especially the two years of the war, have been the best ever for the settlement project in the West Bank.

    The takeover there by Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who also has a brief at the Defense Ministry, has been total"

    Amos Harel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Odhinn




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    National security threat averted in Canada, citizens can sleep soundly after 95 year old interrogated. He can consider himself lucky if he was not raped by a maple broom stick or a rusty iron bar

    15 Nov 2025

    Montreal, Canada – A former United Nations special rapporteur who investigated Israeli abuses against Palestinians says he was interrogated by Canadian authorities on “national security” grounds as he travelled to Canada this week to attend a Gaza-related event.

    Richard Falk, an international law expert from the United States, told Al Jazeera that he was questioned at Toronto Pearson international airport on Thursday alongside his wife, fellow legal scholar Hilal Elver.

    “A security person came and said, ‘We’ve detained you both because we’re concerned that you pose a national security threat to Canada,'” Falk, 95, said on Saturday in an interview from Ottawa, the Canadian capital. “It was my first experience of this sort – ever – in my life.”

    Falk and Elver – both US citizens – were travelling to Ottawa to take part in the Palestine Tribunal on Canadian Responsibility when they were held for questioning.

    The tribunal brought together international human rights and legal experts on Friday and Saturday to examine the Canadian government’s role in Israel’s two-year bombardment of the Gaza Strip, which a UN inquiry and numerous rights groups have described as a genocide.

    Falk said he and his wife were held for questioning for more than four hours and asked about their work on Israel and Gaza, and on issues of genocide in general. “[There was] nothing particularly aggressive about his questioning,” he said. “It felt sort of random and disorganised.”

    But Falk said he believes the interrogation is part of a global push to “punish those who endeavour to tell the truth about what is happening” in the world, including in Gaza.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Sobering thoughts

    Perhaps Israel may in the end succeed in ‘cleansing’ all of Palestine of its indigenous Arab inhabitants. But even if that were to happen, it would not mean that Israel could thereby achieve voluntary peace with the Arab countries in the region. Hostility would persist — just as animosity in Europe toward Nazi Germany would have persisted in the hypothetical case that Nazi Germany had won the Second World War.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Benedict XVI


    Why is there a Palestinian flag at a Climate Action rally in Dublin today ?

    1000039517.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I'd imagine the carbon emissions of the two year Genocide in Gaza are eye-watering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,779 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    And the death penalty coming in (for Palestinians)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Israelis just can't help themselves - aggression is ingrained in their psyche.

    And it wasn't small arms fire - it was a Merkava Battle Tank.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) has impeccable timing…

    "We are a State of Law"

    Hmmm - we'll let the ICJ and ICC be the judges of that. Oh hang on, maybe the Hebron 13 have already answered that.

    PM Netanyahu said at a government meeting that settler attacks against Palestinians and IDF soldiers in the West Bank "will be addressed with full force because we are a state of law." Netanyahu added that these raids are committed by a "minority" which "does not represent the large settler public, who are law-abiding and loyal to the state."

    13 Israelis were arrested over the weekend at the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron on suspicion of assault, violence, trespassing, disturbing public order, and sexual harassment, Israel Police said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Israeli Govt. - rotten to the core. Fully deserving of their Pariah status and many would agree, a terrorist State.

    But now that Gaza is dust, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, Lebanon and Golan are the new front line.

    "The settler right cannot challenge Trump openly, and its far-right representatives in Netanyahu's security cabinet, Smotrich and Ben-Gvir, are constrained.

    So they are trying to sabotage the emerging regional deal by igniting the West Bank.

    This is not the Hilltop Youth but something akin to the coalition's militant wing.

    Smotrich funded the settlers' ATVs, Ben-Gvir gutted the West Bank police command for them, Defense Minister Israel Katz canceled detentions without trial for Jews while leaving them in place for Palestinians…

    Everyone knows who these 50 - 100 settler attackers are. Everyone knew in real time where they would strike. 

    The problem is that there is no one to stop them in the field because no one wants to stop them"

    Avi Bar-Eli



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I think the Israeli govt. is teetering on the edge.


    Netanyahu said that despite the U.S. submitting a UN Security Council draft resolution that foresees "a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood," his opposition to a Palestinian state "has not changed at all." 

    Netanyahu's comments follow backlash to the U.S.-backed UN resolution from his ministers, among them Defense Minister Israel Katz, who declared earlier on Sunday that "Israel's policy is clear. A Palestinian state will not be established." On Saturday, Finance Minister Smotrich urged Netanyahu to immediately draw up an "appropriate and decisive response" that would "clarify to the entire world – no Palestinian state will be established."



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