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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,498 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,850 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


     no way you can look at the Russians going into Pokrovsk and see them as a modern, powerful army. All they do is bomb **** and then send in meatwaves, most armies can do that if they have enough manpower and the will to throw those lives away for nothing.

    Does this matter or make things any better for Ukraine if they're still grinding forward? If they do end up swallowing all of Ukraine or as much as Putin fancies this 'death by a thousand cuts' will have been a worse ordeal than a surgical Desert Storm-style takeover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,498 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    I never said anything about how it would be better, I just commented that despite their 'successes' it's still perfectly possible to mock Russia for their tactics and lack of proper equipment.

    So yes, despite your claim people are still 'scoffing' at them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭brickster69


    RF captures the settlement of Danilovka in the Dnepropetrovsk oblast. The capture of which cuts the main highway from Pokrovskoye all the way down the east bank of the river to Gulyaipole.

    Given regular advances of over 5km in this region suggests Ukraine are not only outnumbered but lack hardly any drone operators who are all tied up in the other places.

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,498 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    You forgot to mention which neutral reliable sources confirmed that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,653 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I suppose both could be true

    Seen reports of Russia converting tanks into APC

    Post edited by TheValeyard on

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,384 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭crushproof


    The news out of Ukraine about the corruption reaching the very top of government will hugely dent international opinion about funding the war and the Ukrainian economy. Absolutely crazy that some people will shot their own country in the foot for a bigger house, nice cars and a holiday home or whatever. The fact that it is closes allies to Zelensky is a big blow.

    He and the government really need to come out strong against this and he needs to weed out corrupt allies, especially now that Russia is planning on blacking out the whole country. They need European and international help more than ever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Anyone who doesn't think this goes on in every country around the world is extremely naïve. The only difference is a) in truly corrupt nations, it's the guys at the top who benefit the most, and b) in truly corrupt nations its kept hush hush and under the carpet. Of course, in truly corrupt nations you don't have a free press to investigate any rumours.

    Any wonder why TACO is determined to undermine all the traditional elements of a liberal democracy? Why he despises the free press? Why he's happy to pardon those convicted of criminal offences?

    The defender of liberal democracy is NOT sitting on the other side of the Atlantic. He's sitting right next door to Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭rogber


    Absolutely. I remember all those guys who used to post here literally dozens of times a day for month after month (till most of them got banned for calling anyone who disagreed with their predictions of total Ukrainian victory Putin fans), seemingly without jobs and with endless free time - but none of them seemed willing to go over there and fight though the Ukrainian army would welcome them.

    Warfare is hell and even if Ukraine is fighting a very just war against a vile enemy it's absolutely understandable that lots of men and indeed women have no desire to die for their country and lots of parents and children and lovers do not want to lose the people they care about most in that war.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭oceanman


    Not really news though is it….Ukraine has always been a country that reeked with the stench of corruption on every level. There is a good why they were always refused entry into the EU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    As an update, I see that TACO is now pressuring the Israelis to pardon the undoubted war criminal Netanyahu in respect of the various domestic corruption charges. Guys like them know no shame, and more the fools are those that lap up the excuses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    One optimistic account of the situation in the ground (Skruffy) and a negative one (Denis Davydov).

    It's very hard to control corruption in war because criticising the authorities can lead to accusations of supporting the other side. But unquestionably, given the dependence on Western aid with the verification and tracing, there is less corruption on the Ukrainian side than the Russian side.

    The money De Valera raised in America was the subject of decades of litigation in Ireland after independence. We had the tribunals in 1989-2013. The report into Donegal County Council has been suppressed since 2016.

    We have corruption in the West too. The US in my opinion is quite corrupt, with the billionaires buying politicians. It doesnt justify the attrocities commits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    The alternative, as we know, is capitulation and living under monster rule. Ukraine can only play the hand they are dealt.

    Ukraine is suffering, but has varying degrees of support. Whereas Russia is imploding with only Frenemies to support them.

    I’d bet on Ukraine more so than Putin’s USSR Mk 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,319 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I see a lot of Denys followers on telegram are turning on him now for being an arm chair general. We all are too but the driver difference is we're not draft dodgers from Ukraine. Demy's is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Denys says that some Russians have gone far beyond the front, bypassing Ukrainian defences. I think these are infiltrators but thats how the assault on Pokrovsk and Kupiansk started so we shouldnt assume its nothing.

    The fact they are able to bypass them is yet another reminder than manpower matters. Ukraine according to some reports a few months ago still has around 35 million people within in the 1991 borders, but maybe only 29 million in government controlled territory. Given that the Russians are conscripting even old men, I struggle to understand why the minimum mobilisation age in Ukraine is 25. It should be 18.

    Ex NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has just criticised the Biden administration for cutting military aid when the Ukrainians were retaking Kherson. Accuses that administration of "defeatism".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    RF? Bricky…are we trying to invent pal-y little acronyms for your buddies in the “Russian Federation”, or to give it it’s proper title “That basketcase of a Russian State that cosplays badly as a democracy and as a Soviet legacy”

    RF…are we so familiar with the old “RF” Bricky? The “RF” that randomly bombs children in their homes and hospitals? That RF? Any opinion on how the “RF” do this? Any nuggets of moral fortitude on that while you jump around in giddy excitement that the “RF” crossed a field?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    The other big difference I think (though admit I haven't lived in a country completely rotted out by corruption) is it extends all the way up and down the totem pole. It's just the way it is, and is natural (but alien to us).

    You will be giving out small bribes and brown envelopes to police, civil servants…any time you interact with the state/need something, while the same will go on with the oligarchs and autocrats at the top, but the sums will be millions and billions.

    Maybe Americans can look forward to lovely experiences like bribing low level police to stop them arresting you on a trumped up charge, or giving gifts to tax officals not to audit you etc. if MAGA gets entrenched and spreads this kind of every day graft through the system as part of project of "Making America Russian Great Again"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The Nazis constantly "announced" the capture of Stalingrad, and newsreels were constantly shown saying they had captured it. Putin doing something similar with claims to have captured places when in fact the situation is still contested.

    They have repeatedly claimed to have captured Chasiv Yar, but even now, they only control most of it, not all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,653 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Kings and Generals update on the situation on the front.

    The actual number of Russian soldiers in Pokrovsk is apparently only 250.

    This is the situation with the railway and roads in the city. Kings and Generals say "the tide may yet turn in Pokrovsk, but at present the advantage is with the Russians' (approximate quote).

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    The situation has improved for the Ukrainians in the Doboropilia front though.

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    This was the situation previously:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


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    And another russian refinery goes kaboom



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    Looks like the crew have been killed too which is probably more important than the loss of the plane itself

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Kings and Generals channel on youtube reports that some Russian regions have sharply reduced the "sign in bonus" for new recruits. Samara has reduced them from $38,000 in January to $5000 in October. In my opinion this is because of the sanctions finally biting, especially on the recent oil sanctions.

    Marco Rubio has said now the issue is enforcement, such as the shadow fleet.

    Troubling article yesterday about the Russian shadow fleet using ports in the Baltic like Riga. There is clandestine ownership.

    Putin pushing a new law in October to allow Russia to use the "human mobilisation reserve", which Putin claims is 2 million men, to be used, without having to mobilise.

    Also of concern is the Russian advance in Dnipropetrovsk. If this is not contained it could eventually threaten Zaporizhia city next year though that is likely a year at least away if they advance as much as Denis Davydov says they did this year.

    The Russians took an island off the coast of Kherson, and Russian milibloggers are emphasising their intention to attack the city, but Kings and Generals thinks this would be a "collosal undertaking" for either side to cross the river.

    First a map of where the front is compared to Zaporizhzia city, prewar population of 1 million.

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    This is where Russia was before the advance. Second photo is current situation.

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    Second photo. Red areas show Russian advances.

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    Map of situation in Kupiansk.

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    Also a new threat is emerging on the Kharkiv Oblast border. In October, Russia took the town of Milerovo, but at the time it didn't seem that important to the Kupiansk situation. However Russia has expanded along the border in a war that could make it easier for them to send more troops to support their bridgehead West of the river Oskil which divides Kupiansk. They are trying to take Otradne and Bolohivka.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    When you see stuff like the info in your post,it makes me think-What in the name of God must the oligarchs within putins circle think of this war.

    The money that is being spent is colossal just to keep the Russian army in the field and supplied, never mind the damage the economy is taking from sanctions and refineries getting hit by Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    They dont seem to have the power in the Russian system that billionaires have in the West. Then again, during Putins rule, there has been the rise of the security-oligarch e.g. Gazprom boss Alexei Miller, Rosneft boss Igor Sechin who are security officials/ex KGB that are also billionaires. The latter tend to be more hardline.

    I think the reason its different is that capitalism happened organically in the West because of the decline of feudalism after the Black Death in 1346-53 whereas in Russia, it was people connected with the Soviet regime that tended to benefit from Perestoika, and the privatisations under Yeltsin were rigged with a crooked voucher scheme that looked like other people were buying the shares which then ended up in their hands.

    RFU News Reporting from Ukraine says Ukraine has managed a rotation of troops from and into Myronohrad after a diversionary attack further north, which had caused Russia to send forces there Zayushok area)

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    RTE says that Russia controls 81% of Donetsk and 99% of Luhansk regions. But also that ISW says it would take years to take the rest of Donbass.

    Kramatorsk, Kostyantinivka, Slovyansk and Druzhivka are a conurbation.

    Kings and Generals assessment of the material losses in the past few years of the war on each side.

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    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    ISW says Russia controls 46% of Pokrovsk and 10% of Myronohrad.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Clearing completed earlier today in the north east of Mirnograd with video footage of the large mine area now under full control.

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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