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Grazing 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I have fields like them with loads of grass and they were mowing through silage. Got them in and the sheep will finish it. They’re happier in even though it’s mild.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Sami23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    the poaching is not an issue, the winter and spring will sort that.

    Come November, unless cattle have good dry lying and shelter, they’re better off in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    When they go in They will go backwards or stay stale for a week or 2 till there stomachs adjust to a full time silage. After that youll see improvements.

    Can't see him messing with seeding that ground, it will come right over the months.

    You must have got a doing in the past with poached ground?, you seem very keen on harrowing poached ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭limo_100


    actually I haven’t ever got it too bad and I don’t even have a Harrow but I’m considering getting one this year. The main concern if I am after doing a lot of reseeding so trying to mind it abit too much nearly don’t want them **** on it.🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    6/7 months.
    there’re the youngest of the herd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    why weaning so young?


    I would wait till a few weeks after housing to wean too much change at once to house and wean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Conversations 3


    I have most cattle still out but will have to call it quits this weekend.

    Ground is gone soft and saturated and more rain this week.

    I still have 2 fields with good cover so might let a few lighter lads out of it dries up a bit.

    Opening the pit now after using the cling seal so hopefully I can sell the sprong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Just been nosy but what age would you wean at ?

    Like you said I've mine housed but not weaned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Assuming cows condition is good I leave it go as long as possible. Often only wean 6–8 weeks before calving so calf’s could be 10 months old. If I weaned at 6 -7 months the cows end up fat as mules.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Same here calf is with the cow for 10 months is the target here. Keeps the cow fit not fat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Have the Weanlings a creep area or how do you get meal to them.

    That's the main reason for weaning here so I can give them meal for the winter.

    Most my calves are 7 months now and I would have thought the cows milk would be scarce enuf now when house and the Weanlings would do better on meal ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Most men have a creep area and suck on cows while still creep. It's not about the milk at 7 months it's about keeping condition off cows, so it kills 2 birds with the one stone.

    I calve march April may, calves are self weaned around January February, that's 45 to 60 days plus to get condition and quality beeslence into system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Sami23


    I get ya and makes sense but unfortunately I'm not setup very well creep wise.

    I feed the Cows hay to keep them from getting too fat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Ya they are not doing 6-700 grams a day. None of that farm has got fertlizer since August 1st except the field they are gone into. A cut of silage was taken off that around then and it got 1.75 bags of 18-6-12. Is being growing since. I considered taking silage off the heavier fields 4-5 weeks ago but land is low in fertility. It would have cost 20-22/ bale to make, bale and deliver to ther farm where shed is and another 0-80euro an acre to replace lost P&K. As well Autumn silagebis low DM so you are handling a lot if water.

    There's no point in letting it standing over the winter and it's important to graze it out even if it effect performance. Every weeks extra grazingnis saving 10+bales acweek at 32 euro a bale. Or about 7 euro a head a week.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    Yes I've a creep pen great job when it comes to getting them going on the meal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    At best they’re holding their own there. at .6kg day say 4 kg a week and €5 kg live weight price, you’re losing €20 less the €7 so net loss of €13 week

    I understand the bit about getting it grazed off. I have two small bits across a main road - I just give it to a local farmer who puts sheep or dairy calves in it to graze it off.

    I have a neighbour who leaves out his stores till well into December- they’d be on clay a lot of the time and he reckons he’s saving a fortune by doing this - fools gold I call it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Happy out, not a cough or a worry

    And the grass that grows in October is stolen by the frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    big difference in your picture and what Bass put up. This looks to be a dream place to have them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Sheep not an option very little locally and even if they were they would have the run of the complete farm. Compensatory growth when they hit silage will make up at least that difference. They are not going back, they want out of the area they are grazing day 4 ( I only visit every second day) but it takes until day 7 for them to get it grazed out fairly well..

    Looking at them today, the big friesuans are definitely holding there own, they are not standing still or going backwards. I say I am definitely getting 3-400 grams per day on them. You would know if they are not doing they start looking like they are growing.

    You be surprised how fast it recovers and 48 hours leave it looking different.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭mayota


    These will go in the weekend

    20251108_144005.jpg 20251108_144133.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭mayota


    Pictures taken Saturday, I'll get pic tomorrow from same spot. Lot of rain since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    brought in last of the autumn calved cows today, last nights rain made sh*t of the place



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I have to say there's some great eyes for weights on this page. How a person would be able to guesstimate 3-400g on a Freisan after not seeing them for a day is some skill to have 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    After 20 years at cattle if you cannot spot if cattle are thriving or not and the rate they are thriving at then.you might as well give up the game.

    No you will not spot a daily difference but the mixture of the cattle in my bunch gives me a good idea what is happening. The friesians are holding there own with the herefords and Charley heifers. The big heavy friesuans would be the first to go backwards. They are on the heavy covers now for two weeks. I grazed off 7 acres of reseeded ground before that.

    If friesians stand still they get a growthy look about them this time of year. Young lad will see them in the next 5-7 days after not seeing them for a fortnight he will have a better idea. I have other cattle outside on better pasture and this bunch are not falling behind them.

    When ever I see them.they are spread accross the field grazing not huddled under the hedge another good sign. If the thrive had stopped the friesian bullock is the first to show it.

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    how often will you see them lying down chewing the cud in the field that you took them off last???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Days are short at present so cattle will graze most of the day. They tend to lie down at night. I be only looking at them once either early in the morning or late in the evening just before dusk. I would not expect them to be lying down either time

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 178 ✭✭Ak84


    Bass, do you notice cattle get a bit more flight when they are not checked every day?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,172 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Not really, generally mine are in small area of a couple of acres. I always try to spend 15 minutes walking through them. Ya if you have a couple wild sucklers they will be flighty but friesians, Herefords AA etc generally are quite enough

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Looks like ye are all housing with grass left to eat…

    Might as well shoot my shot… if anyone wants ground cleaned off and a few beer tokens my sheep would do a good job tidying a place up ;)

    Im based in Leitrim & Kildare so anywhere in between suits me. All lowland sheep…



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