Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

The reason is the same reason Spain helped us in Hugh O'Neill's rebellion. Namely that we are the backdoor to the UK. Except this time its the backdoor to NATO.

We have no deterrence unlike Article NATOs Article 6.

Theres also reason to believe some of the outspoken pro Russian figures might collaborate with Russia. Remember Cobalt?

Many on the Irish Left are outspoken critics of the US and NATO or even the EU. On the extremes, a few praise Marxist dictatorships like Maduro and Cuba.

Also predicting Belarus' actions is difficult. They were a springboard to invading Kyiv region in 2022.

We achieved an outcome we could live with against a superpower in 1922. Finland survived a Soviet invasion. We are less likely to be invaded if we have Article 5.

Personally I think a lot of the clamouring to get rid of neutrality stems from modern thinking Irish people more than anything don’t want to be embarrassed on the international stage by old Irish traditions. They want to proudly walk tall with their international brethren and be patted on the back for being so generous and compassionate and supportive of pretty much anything that benefits other jurisdictions. It was well put by the German ambassador when we were prepared to sell our souls to the ECB…why do the Irish always want to be loved!

It’s a costly business by the noisy minority for the rest of use this wanting to be loved

I’ve seen the ukrs are holding a protest about their accommodation being reduced. Ungrateful is not the word.

Are you still maintaining there is parts of Ukraine that bombs aren’t being dropped on and using Lviv as an example?

That’s what you stated which is a lie.

Ukrainian tourism page saying parts are safe and please come to our country.

Yeah no balance there, imagine a tourism page trying to promote their country which is in desperate need of financial assistance at the moment as they fight a war.

Anyway your safe place in Ukraine below.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czjvlgzmp4wo.amp

Travel advice from the UK foreign office these regions are listed as the safest .

• Zakarpattia  
• Ivano-Frankivsk 
• Ternopil 
• Chernivtsi 
• Lviv 

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ukraine

Simon Harris is now concerned about high immigration. Be da holy. Remember Verona Murphy’s was fkd out of Fine Gael for expressing the same views which at that time was deemed racist. Harris is a husk of a man , stands for nothing only keeping himself in power.

Lviv was heavily bombed as recently as October 5th - hit by 140 drones and 23 missiles. So even a supposedly "safe" area in Ukraine is not safe at all.

According to our experts here it’s safe. Of course they would go with their families for a holiday.

We sorely need to stop caring about our international/EU good boy image - be willing to tell outside interests to f*ck off.

That way we would dictate our own policies regarding immigration whether that be African/Ukrainian asylum seekers/refugees.

The ability to not care what people think and not fall to pressure from outside interests is a great asset and we really should be making use of it.

Maybe we should follow Poland’s lead spearheaded by that once great EU Commission stalwart Tusk

https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/10/11/poland-says-it-will-be-exempted-from-eu-migrant-relocations/

We can choose not to conform to EU law without leaving. There is no mechanism by which we can be ejected. As a net contributor we can ignore fines. On any aspect of EU law which we would be likely to disapply we would easily find allies within the bloc to support us.