Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

I think I'm right in saying that men cannot be conscripted into the Ukrainian army until the age of 25, so their government might argue there is no particular reason to 'make' them stay in Ukraine against their will. It will be four years at least before the oldest of this cohort would be eligible for conscription - one would hope that the war would somehow be over by that point.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the Irish government are obliged to accept them though or offer them refuge.

English is a big pull for Ukrainians coming to Ireland. If theyve had any interaction with a foreign language outside of Russian, its more than likely English. Plus its the most profitable language to learn.

The UK are out of the EU so Ireland picks itself, we juiced the pot through Dail idiocy and corruption but wed have gotten a disproportionate amount regardless imo.

Theyll integrate like the poles imo. So ive no major issue with them but the same issues exist outside of integration.

Too many people too few amenities. We cannot accommodate and educated and take care of so many all at once.

The Dail cronnies and the idealogues will shout racism but its just a scape goat.

Everyone knows what happens when many people share few resources. At least the Dail are increasing their own bottom lines. I cant for the life of me figure out the idealogues.

Which parts of Ukraine aren’t being bombed.

This should be interesting.

Or we could have said not our war, not our problem.

“many have left the parts of the country where there are no Russian soldiers or bombs being dropped and come to countries like Ireland as refugees.”

You didn’t say rarely.

And just to note, Western Ukraine is attacked with ballistic missiles and drones weekly.

“Victims included a 15-year-old girl, who died with three members of her family when their house was flattened in the village of Lapaivka in the Lviv region. Eight others were hurt in the same strike. One person died in the city of Zaporizhzhia when drones struck an apartment block.”

Yeah real safe in Western Ukraine. I suppose you would live there.

So once again I’ll ask which parts of Ukraine is there no bombs being dropped?

"You didn’t say rarely."

I did, you quoted me saying it. I deliberately said rarely because I know some attack there would be posted.

If we are not there for them, the won't be there for us if the situation required we needed allies. If we had allies when the Normans came, history could have been different.

Who’s coming for us?? We have allies in the EU. Ukraine aren’t part of that alliance and hopefully never will be.

I know many of us are of partial Norman ancestry but it makes a valid point about assuming you wont be invaded because you werent before (since 1922). The Netherlands repeated that mistake in 1940 after 123 years of peace.

Sergey Kislytsia, Ukrainian Ambassador to the UN, was on the radio this afternoon criticising Irish neutrality as "a thing of the past", while insisting he is not lecturing Irish people. He pointed to Finland and Sweden who were committed to neutrality until Russia invaded Ukraine.

Massive respect for all those who flew the flag for Irish people in here and elsewhere despite the government and the MSM whipping up a storm against us and enabling the far left.

Speaking of I see the man who threatened to kill and approached Steenson was sentenced today. I'm sure there will be someone on RTE news shedding tears for our poor elderly politicians.

Truly

Ironically they are the exact same people that would’ve been the most puritanical adherents to the Catholic establishment had they been born 60 years earlier

The poisonous sense of moral superiority cultivated thorough the shaming of others remains the same however

The Visit Ukraine website says many areas are safe for tourists.

Are you saying they are lying?

You didn’t answer the question.

You said there are parts of Ukraine where no bombs are dropping.

Lviv and Kyiv are considered relatively safe compared to Eastern Ukraine but there is still bombs dropping in these cities every week and civilians being killed

I told you about a site run by Ukrainians themselves telling tourists about the many safe areas in the country that it was safe to visit.

Just take the L and move on.