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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Funny you should say that about core networks. i have noticed recently friends have gone with LG TVs and only have saorview and then use what ever apps they want such as netflix or disney and a lot of my pals have discovery plus.

    They dont have a sat hooked up for the uk channels either. I suppouse there is only so much you can watch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    The fact it's Paramount doesn't fill me with confidence tbh. They could well be flogging a dead horse at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Ah Simone on the Party Zone on Fridays night love that show.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    According to Wikipedia, he just kept on working, just not on our screens or radio stations here in Ireland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Cokes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭supereurope


    You're right. My dad bought a satellite dish in 1989, so my teenage years were spent glued to MTV. Weird ads, Ray Cokes, Dutch VJs and bands big in Europe that we'd never heard of (I always remember Army of Lovers getting a lot of airplay.) It was never the same after the "regionalisation" project and MTV UK & Ireland never had that "magic." I didn't want ads for easyJet, I wanted German-language ads for Raider bars (which I think was what they called a Twix in Germany.)

    I can still remember the names of many of the early VJs - Paul King, Pip Dann (she was from NZ I think), Kristine Backer, Marcel Vanhilt, Hugo de Campos, Rebecca de Ruvo (that spelling might be wrong.) I also remember a German guy called Ingo, someone called Kimsy and a Dutch lady with a really long name…Marianne Van Der Vlught or something like that.

    Will MTV 90s do its usual conversion to MTV Xmas this year I wonder?

    EDIT: just to add, I also remember Vanessa Warwick on Headbanger's Ball, and a show called The End, which was Davina McCall's first presenting role.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I seem to recall something about a live show in Hamburg in the late 90s that went disastrously wrong?

    He's on RadioEins in Berlin these days…

    https://www.radioeins.de/team/a_z/ray-cokes.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Ray put his two cents in on Facebook recently.

    https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1334159734932384&id=100050151114203



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I've often heard about the "Hamburg incident" that ended Ray's career, but I never knew what actually happened.

    Digital Spy to the rescue. Sounds like MTV treated him pretty badly:

    Screenshot 2025-10-24 at 14.48.30.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Charles Slane


    I remember when Super Channel launched on cable in Dublin (along with the original Sky Channel). It had hours of programmes from Music Box - Simon Potter, Amanda Reddington, Nino Fireto, Music Box News etc.

    MTV took a similar approach for a while with Ray Cokes etc

    Great presenter-led music shows, often with interviews and live performances. Far more engaging than the current jukebox music channels with limited playlists. Much like Top of the Pops, these shows would often introduce you to music that you found you enjoyed but would never have sought out yourself.

    Luckily we still have Jools Holland on the BBC or Other Voices on RTE as places where you can discover something interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    Super Channel was very much of those early days of pan-European television that never quite lasted beyond the start of satellite TV - as soon as the vast amount of digital channel space arrived in the late 90s they split everything up - always felt that was the end of MTV as we knew it - MTV Europe had a very particular vibe that MTV UK/Ireland never quite had and then it all went down hill into reality tv mode, just as music was sliding over to streaming online.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Marijne van der Vlugt, she was the singer of the band Salad (still is).



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    OT but Super, in a roundabout way, became CNBC Europe. It was taken over by NBC in 1993, and heavily reformatted - it’s daytime programming became focussed on NBC News and CNBC simulcasts and the evening became “Where the Stars Come Out at Night”, focusing on US talk shows (and, er, Profiler. For some reason). It didn’t last beyond 1998 (and was renamed NBC Europe briefly before its closure) and NBC sold the channel to a German company who continued under the NBC name in Germany for a good few years.

    In most of the rest of Europe, including on Cablelink in Ireland, its analogue cable frequency was given to National Geographic but with 5-11am CNBC Europe programmes.

    The two channels don’t have a direct lineage and co-existed for a while in the mid-1990s but CNBC Europe is very much the spiritual successor of NBC Super Channel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Super Channel replaced Music Box when it launched ,Music Box the first 24 hour Music station in these Isles, indeed for a few days prior to Super Channels launch, cablelink subscribers were able to watch Music Box during 'tests' for Super Channel.

    Super Channel was also owned for a short time by an Italian company owned by the Marcucci family who operated 'videomusic', Videomusic was amateurish at best compared to MTV and the Music Box programmes that had continued to air on Super.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    I’d say the challenge to launching a music channel back then was probably acquiring rights to broadcast music videos, of which there weren’t all that many made until the industry actually scaled up - MTV would end up being the vehicle for that as artists actually produced video with a view to being on MTV. Prior to that music videos were a bit of a rarity and bands tended to appear live or lip syncing - Top of The Pops being the prime example of that in this part of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,057 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    I think it was ABBA who were the first groups to produce music videos for their songs, I am always surprised how Now70s in particular and That's 60s (Or 'Oldies' depending on the week) have so many 'lip syncing videos ' available to them and the occasional music video.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,405 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    ABBA aren't notably early in doing it. They were really, really prolific and still really popular though so you'll definitely see lots of their videos.

    There's what we'd consider as recognisable music videos back to the mid 60s, but they're very rare until the 70s. Generally done to send a performance to be aired on a TV show the other side of the Atlantic - because there weren't really many other outlets. ABBAs videos would have been for the same purpose.

    The Troggs - Wild Thing - 1966 for instance.

    Also videos cut from footage from the movies featuring the artists that did movies - Elvis and the Beatles being really obvious examples but you also had people like Cliff Richard - which were used for the same purpose; and as filler in cinemas or to promote the movie.

    Videos being made for basically every single is early 80s to mid 00s; and probably hasn't recovered to that era even with Youtube etc now - a big thing being that there isn't really a concept of a single anymore. Lyric videos are often the only thing done for secondary tracks these days; and maybe one or two real videos an album.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,417 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And if they band couldn't appear… you might be treated to overly literal interpretative dance of the song lyrics by Pan's People et al :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭supereurope


    To answer my own question, MTV 90s will be changing to MTV XMAS as usual next week (for the final time.)

    Screenshot 2025-10-31 at 22.15.46.png


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    As others have said MTV Europe was the golden era of MTV, so many great shows, so many interesting VJ's from all around europe, the quirky adverts, live events, I was introduced to so many great bands at that time particularly from Headbangers Ball and 120 minutes. I remember the day MTV UK and Ireland launched it was immediately obvious this was not the same product, gone was the whole pan European feel, gone was all the European music, the quirky MTV animations and reality TV quickly took over and we just had standard adverts like you would find on ITV. For me this was the end of MTV and I very quickly found myself watching MTV less and less.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Looks like the closing of services has already begun, MTV no longer broadcasts into Australia or New Zealand since 3 days ago.



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