Israel/Palestine Thread

Disrupting Saudi-Israel rapprochement was the explanation I’ve heard most often for Oct 7. Obviously, the opportunity had to arise too and it took a long time to prepare for. We’ll probably never know the full details of the debate that went on because nearly all the participants are gone. I doubt Hamas were acting under Iranian orders but that aspect may ultimately be clarified at the Tehran end. Sinwar had a deep belief in the power of blood sacrifice and saw himself as following in the footsteps of Islamic martyrs. Unfortunately, he was more than willing to sacrifice other Palestinians too, whatever their beliefs, and saw such deaths as good for the cause. You really don’t want a leader like that, not that ordinary people had a recent say in the matter.

Carry on what? I don’t support Hamas as I make quite clear on numerous occasions.

Bear in mind that Israel has actively prevented the creation of Paiestine, not just called for that not to happen. That’s a more serious offence in my view, ie actions versus words.

For decades the grosser aspects of the settler movement have been deliberately concealed from American audiences by the major networks there. The rise of social media has meant that younger people are getting the news directly and can see it firsthand themselves which is beginning to erode support for Israel in people under 40. No amount of AIPAC funding can block this.

Is that your answer to the question?

It wasn’t a Hamas rocket.

What ceasefire?

Interesting example of how things can change and how more and more countries are recognising the malevolent role of the US in the development of humanity. Seven EU members voted against or abstained - all of them joined the EU in this century with many of them having fascist histories.

The United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) on Wednesday delivered another decisive rebuke of Washington’s decades-long economic restrictions on Cuba, with 165 member states voting in favor of ending the US blockade.

Despite strong US lobbying ahead of the vote, only seven countries opposed the resolution, while 12 abstained, underscoring the persistent global consensus against the embargo that has targeted the island nation for more than 60 years.

The votes against the resolution were cast by the United States, "Israel", Argentina, Paraguay, North Macedonia, Ukraine, and Hungary.

Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Costa Rica, the Czech Republic, Ecuador, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Morocco, Moldova, Romania, and Poland are the countries that abstained.

Ethnic cleansing has no red lines.

https://thecradle.co/articles/constructing-chaos-tel-avivs-hand-in-syrias-sectarian-slaughter

On 7 March, Syrian security forces and affiliated armed factions perpetrated the massacre of more than 1,500 Alawite civilians, including many elderly, women, and children, in 58 separate locations on the Syrian coast.

Though the killings were executed by sectarian forces loyal to Syrian president Ahmad al-Sharaa (Abu Mohammad al-Julani), a former Al-Qaeda commander, the path to the massacre was paved by a covert Israeli strategy aimed at inciting an Alawite uprising. 

Israel's plan hinged on pushing Alawites into the “trap” of launching an armed rebellion, with false promises of external support, only to give Sharaa’s forces the pretext to carry out the mass slaughter of Alawite civilians in “response.”

Israel’s goal was consistent with its long-standing aim, articulated in the infamous Yinon Plan: to dismantle Syria and reshape it into “weak, decentralized ethnic regions,” following former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad’s fall.