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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,144 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Anyone know what's happening with NFL Redzone? Used to be scheduled for Sunday nights on Sky Sports Mix but I don't see it down for 7th September.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    A new Sky NFL deal is amazingly not yet confirmed yet. They are supposed to still have Redzone according to unconfirmed reports though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,902 ✭✭✭✭paulie21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,940 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well that’s made my weekend already. Well done Jerry you show them who’s boss.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Really thought they could get more than that. Only saving grace I guess is that Dallas usually draft well in the first round. Not always, there's been some blips, but they do have a pretty good hit rate.

    Jerry calling him "Michael" repeatedly in the press conference was unfortunate.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Sky deal was today confirmed, and it still includes Redzone.

    They will now have simultaneous live games in both afternoon windows so remains to be seen how exactly they’ll cope with 2-3 live games plus Redzone at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭lertsnim


    Looking at the schedules I can see Red Zone is on Sky Sports Mix as before and the games are on Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports+. Any extra games on top of those I presume will be online.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,144 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Steelers have opened a merch store on Clarendon Street in Dublin 2 ahead of the game

    https://x.com/SteelersIreland/status/1963327385941553187

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,666 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    There's a flag football clinic for kids on Merrion Square over the weekend. You can book your kids in here…

    Pittsburgh Steelers American Flag Football Clinics - Universe



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,780 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Last night Jalen Carter spat at Dak Prescott right at the start of the game and was ejected. Totally senseless and it could lead to a ban.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The weird thing is, because it happened before the first snap of the game, they might consider it as a full game ban anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,780 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    .....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,416 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The NFL has considered Carter being ejected before the first play of the game to be his one game suspension for spitting at Prescott. Eagles have also fined him about 60k. He's available to play against Chiefs this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,147 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I see that the Chiefs are going hard to play in Dublin next year with a new mascot KC O’Wolf (ugh) and a planned fan event in Dublin this month.

    https://www.chiefs.com/international/ireland/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Apparently Mark Sanchez was stabbed last night and rushed to hospital in critical condition, where he is now stable.

    No other details released, but plenty of rumours doing the rounds on social media. A bar fight being one of them, or a dispute with a delivery driver being another.

    Post edited by el Fenomeno on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,940 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Indy Police have said they have arrested mark Sanchez over a dispute over a delivery driver. So fox will be promoting someone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,067 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Second worst fumble in his career



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    So as we are approaching the end of our regular season, I thought i would educate with my experience as a football dad.

    My lad is seven, and one of his bestest friends is in a football friendly family. When I was away for a month with the Army, my wife let my son get talked into playing American Football for a season.

    I was not thrilled. Neither is his pediatrician. He had had a season playing flag the year before which he liked enough, and we had little objection to, but had been hoping to avoid tackle. No such luck.

    We figured we'd hoped he would try tackle, decide he didn't like getting knocked around, and quit. Why risk the injury? No such luck. He may quit, but not because he doesn't like the game. He's not a fan of everything else around it, and neither are we as parents.

    What we didn't realize was just how much of a religion and how damned seriously American Football is taken in these parts. Flag was a sort of social thing set up by the YMCA, but turned out that friend's dad was running a Texas Youth Football & Cheerleader Association league team. There are about 600 in the state.

    This isn't a knock-about social setup, it's a miniature NFL, and they are serious about it.

    Any team must be able to field four divisions. Flag (up to 6), Tyke (7-8), Junior (9-10) and Rookie (11-12). Failing to field a full 11 kids forfeits the game.

    Our first shock was the schedule. Practice three days a week, two hours a day, plus game day on the weekend. Later in the season it dropped to 90 minutes as the park had to be vacated by sundown. Practice started in August, two hours in full kit at 38 degrees, I was legitimately starting to get concerned for a bit until it cooled down. (Relative term, yesterday's game was a much more reasonable 32).

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    (Coaches provide water during time out)

    The second was the cost. To be fair, the kit is top notch. Kit bag, undershirt, overshirt, helmet markings, all individually named and numbered and integrally so, no "ironed on afterwards" stuff. Then the armor, helmet itself, shoes, practice clothing, mouthguard, all the usual accouterments.

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    The refs are paid professionals. Some also do high school or even college, some used to but just wanted to kick back for a bit, some just love the game and want to help kids have fun.

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    Games are played on full sized pitches, normally at local schools. I presume they get paid as well. All costs money, which comes from the dues and even from ticket sales. Yep, to watch your kid play comes with an $8 charge. At home games it's waived if you volunteer for some duty like admission, concession stand. I go for the chain gang. Means standing for an hour and a half, but at least it's a good view and you can banter with the refs. They are good natured, and are patient with us. "Wait, why didn't we move the chain this time?"

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    The girls obviously do cheer.

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    Rules are a bit different for each age division reflecting some realities. At my kid's level, a coach is allowed on the field to help direct the players. (Sometimes physically dragging them to their required places). The team does have a playbook of about a score of plays the kid's were supposed to learn, but mine certainly didn't have the time to study it, and the coach on the field makes up for it. Touchdowns are converted not by a kick but by attempting to gain a second touchdown from the three yard line (one point, only one down to try for it).

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    In a fourth down the team can elect to do a passing play with the ball starting in the QB's hand instead of starting with a hike. (But it must be thrown, not ran). Other than that, it's full contact.

    The results themselves aren't taken -too- seriously by the adults. I've heard a small amount of griping about some ref decisions, but never once have i seen a coach or adult complain to the refs. However, the coaches do take the team itself seriously. Hanging around watching some practices, i was getting Basic Training flashbacks. It happens that all four of my kid's coaches are ex miltary, and i swear I had heard some of the... motivations.. coming from my drill sergeants all those years ago. Down to punishment laps for transgressions. (Again, high thirties temperature, full kit). The kids are seven and eight for Christ's sake. That said, it turned out our guys are chill compared to the coaches on other teams who i (and everyone else) could hear outright yelling at the kids when they were not performing to standard in the match.

    Leagues are set up by local region. I've never had to drive more than 40 minutes to get to a game. We are likely to make playoffs, which means a larger distance. I hope to hell we get knocked out in game once as the geography spreads as teams get knocked out. At best the next round is Houston or Austin, which becomes an all day event. Dallas would become an overnight, and places like El Paso are either three-day events or we're taking United Airlines. And we're directly in the middle of the state, a team from Amarillo, Brownsville, El Paso or Texarkana would be utterly screwed if they have any level of success. Outside of a nice trophy, i don't know what benefits come to the state champs.

    Anyway, it's been interesting, but we are all disinclined to do it again next year. It just takes too much time out of our week, both as parents and as a kid who does other things like martial arts, catechism (he's due his first communion this year) or just being a kid and playing with friends.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Nick Mangold passed away after a battle with kidney disease. Very sad, he went public last week looking for a kidney donor.

    He was the best centre in the league for the best part of a decade with the Jets.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,940 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers.

    Frank Gore, Fred Taylor.

     Larry Fitzgerald, Torry Holt, Steve Smith Sr., Hines Ward, Reggie Wayne.

     Jason Witten.

    Willie Anderson, Lomas Brown, Jahri Evans, Richmond Webb, Steve Wisniewski, Marshal Yanda.

    Rodney Harrison, Earl Thomas, Darren Woodson.

     Luke Kuechly, Terrell Suggs (also DE).

    Robert Mathis (also LB), Vince Wilfork, Kevin Williams, Adam Vinatieri.

    26 semi finalists for the 2026 pro football hall of fame. Between 4 to 8 of these 26 players will be enshrined in canton next August. So these 26 will be reduced to 15 before the Super Bowl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,780 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    That's some list, so many great players.

    Brees and Manning definitely get in, not sure about Rivers as he never won a Superbowl. Larry Fitz is a definite I think. Jason Written is one of the greatest tight ends of all time so I think he gets there too.

    Suggs, Mathis and Wilfork all deserve to get in too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,067 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Vinateri should be a first ballot, but won't be. Likewise Keuchly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭CFB Podcast


    The Kansas City Chiefs are moving to Kansas.

    They are building a stadium somewhere in Wyandotte County which looks like it is the west side of Kansas City but obviously on the Kansas side of the state line.

    It is planned for 2031.

    Not a huge deal for fans I guess, they are not moving miles away, but I'm sure it's a big deal for (in no particular order) taxpayers, politicians and business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,067 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The fact owners are still able to convince municipalities to pony up pubic money for their stadiums is incredible. Talk about the long con



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,940 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    These are the fifteen finalists for 2026 PFHOF. So up to five of these fifteen will enshrined in canton next August.

    • Willie Anderson, Tackle
    • Drew Brees, Quarterback 
    • Jahri Evans, Guard 
    • Larry Fitzgerald, Wide Receiver
    • Frank Gore, Running Back 
    • Torry Holt, Wide Receiver
    • Luke Kuechly, Linebacker
    • Eli Manning, Quarterback
    • Terrell Suggs, Outside Linebacker/Defensive End
    • Adam Vinatieri, Kicker
    • Reggie Wayne, Wide Receiver
    • Kevin Williams, Defensive Tackle
    • Jason Witten, Tight End
    • Darren Woodson, Safety
    • Marshal Yanda, Guard/Tackle

    So reading the article there can be between 4 and 8 inductees in each class.

    So a maximum of five from this list and three from the senior class which are Ken Anderson, Roger Craig, L.C Greenwood as players and two contributors of Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft.


    So they are the lists that can make up the up to eight inductees in canton next August.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,459 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Belichick surely a shoo-in anyway.

    Of the players I would go for Brees, Larry, Gore, Vinatieri and Kuechly. Just from my personal memories of them. Bet they don't give it to a kicker though, football seems to be the only sport where people routinely disregard and disrespect several positions and their skill set entirely. Even when it often is the position of the teams highest scorer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,067 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I'd agree with that list, only I'd swap Gore for one of the tackles, purely because it seems so much harder for them to get in. Manning shouldn't be within an asses roar of the HoF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,780 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Certain: Brees and Manning

    Superbowl winning QBs always get in on their first ballot.

    Likely: Fitz and Suggs

    I think Larry Fitz is certain to get in and he deserves it. Suggs I think gets in even though I'm not sure he deserves it.

    I really think Witten should get in. For me he's in the conversation for the best all-time tight end. Excellent receiver and premium pass protector and run blocker. There's no top receiving tight end who comes close to him in pass protection and run blocking.

    Kuechly should be in but he had a short career and I've seen those guys have to wait many times.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    This game badly needed a Panthers INT (hopefully followed by a TD) to get it going.



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