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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Autumn 2025 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    Big change in the general forecast for next week on this mornings runs. Yesterday, next week was looking alright and I booked the week off work because I have a few things to get done. Now it looks like a complete write off!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    Ah yeah sound Ecm 👍 🥴

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 365 ✭✭ascophyllum


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    GFS and other models showing different variations of this on and off for the past few days, its the ex-hurricane Melissa I think getting caught up in the jet stream. 10 days away but a very consistent signal even though some of the high-res hurricane models show a range of tracks still available to Melissa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    The 12z ECM is a nightmare scenario for the Halloween weekend. Basically under deep low pressure from various lows and spin off lows from Thursday night to Monday morning. Let's hope this is an outlier. GFS still showing a very low storm too with widespread orange level gusts across the country.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I think for now let's be in monitor mode till monday and then take action from tuesday onwards if models still show this



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    GFS 12z for Nov 1 2025 … There's a chart you hope will not verify (unless you dislike the people of west Munster, and I can't imagine that even being possible, admittedly having only been there once for two days in 1978).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Tzmaster90


    Noob here is that chart showing 3 big storms or one massive one . Also if it verified would it be worse then Eowyn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,935 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Models just aren't giving up on this idea of a storm or storms over Halloween, been showing something or other for the guts of a week now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    The GFS has gone nuts with Melissa !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭snowgal


    oh lord, thinking of PUCA weekend!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    The ECM and GFS are both horrid scenarios for the Halloween weekend for different reasons. I think the models are having a very hard time with it though because it's just a mess of low pressure systems all coming together and they're trying to contend with that.

    The ECM has us in a washing machine of low pressure systems where it'll just be deeply unpleasant for about a week. Nothing too crazy in terms of winds though, other than a spell on Saturday morning based on current guidance but it will be blustery and wet for an extended spell of time. The GFS is a beast of a storm that will bring 140km-160km gusts across most of the country for a few hours and it would be fairly destructive. I know we are still 7-8 days away from this yet so it will most certainly change but the models have been remarkably persistent about a storm for the halloween weekend for days now. It's going to be interesting model watching over the next week or so to see how it plays out.

    The GIF below is the ECM output from Thursday 30th to Thursday 6th, and the stills are GFS for Saturday 1st into Sunday 2nd. You can see from the start of the GIF and from the first GFS image all the low pressure systems in play as it begins to develop.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    Nothing to worry about yet. Melissa is not a hurricane until the weekend but is expected to explode over the very warm waters and become a major one by next Monday. It's not meant to hit the American coastline but even they don't know what direction it will spin. The models won't have a clue what interaction if any Melissa will have with the jetstream . Keep updated with MT'S brilliant daily forecasts as he will also follow the developing hurricane and it's whereabouts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,272 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    With a temperature gradient like this, no wonder the GFS goes nuts with that low. A 20 degree difference at 850hPa in a relatively short distance. Would produce the strongest gusts in the east for many years, possibly since January 2007 or Christmas Eve 1997. But as has been said, no doubt lots of changes to come and (hopefully) nothing to be concerned about at this point.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    Halloween storm of Twenty-Five certainly has a ring to it. Let's hope the models are just on a crazy streak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    It would also be called Storm Bram, quite fitting for Halloween weekend!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭ClimateObserver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    We could be looking at Eowyn 2.0 then on the worst outruns , so let's say if it where to happen , widespread damage powercuts for over a week maybe 2 weeks in spots , still a week to go anything could happen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,861 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    ..

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    Gfs 6z and 12z showing seriously different outcomes for Ts Melisa at D9. No point getting too caught up any any longer range forecast really with this uncertainty

    6z:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    So the stormy Halloween forecasts have been dropped by the gfs and ecm this evening. Still looks quite unsettled though



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,660 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Will the remnants of soon-to-be named Hurricane Melissa impact Ireland at Halloween?


    Plenty of computer models are showing a stormy end to the month, but it appears that the storm potential is presently without significant support.
    The operational model runs are likely incorporating built-in predictions/climactic patterns for systems emerging from the Caribbean Sea and their remnants getting lassoed northeast on the conveyor built that is the jet stream. Melissa remains an unpredictable case, however.
    The National Hurricane Center continues to face challenges in forecasting its precise movements over the next 48 to 72 hours. The system is largely stationary, churning south of Jamaica and Hispaniola. It holds strong potential to develop into a major hurricane, with rapid intensification expected over the weekend.
    On the model front, there is only limited support for a deep area of low pressure to affect Ireland around Halloween. Based on current evidence, the period is expected to be unsettled with some rain and prevailing Southwest or West winds. There is little support for a Storm Bram.
    The latest Global Ensemble Forecast System (GEFS), which runs 21 simulations to account for uncertainty in atmospheric conditions, illustrates the same. The ensemble average is represented by the white line. Galway is used as the sample location.
    There is still plenty to learn about Melissa's future development and impact on the Caribbean, nevermind what it or its remnants produce elsewhere in the Atlantic later next week.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Yes, at this point the developing hurricane is only about 300 miles from Jamaica and forecasters cannot say with any certainty whether it will hit with great force or just a glancing blow in the next 48-72 hours, so what chance is there to make an accurate forecast for its position eight days from now?

    One trend I might suggest for monitoring is that all such outcomes may begin to be held back by 2-3 days because in fact there's a stronger energy peak towards the full moon several days after the time that these very strong lows have been depicted in 8-10 day forecasts, so I won't be too surprised if Melissa does get moving a bit slower than some guidance has been showing and arrives at its (as yet unknown) extratropical transition point a day or two later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Are models still showing a possible storm next weekend? I know where a week away but just curious 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    This wet and boring Autumn is set to continue…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Three of the biggest models have totally different ideas about the 5-8 day evolution of Melissa even now that it has started to show signs of intensification south of Haiti.

    The ECM and GEM agree that it will track west to the south of Jamaica, and turn north in about four days, crossing Cuba. But the ECM then weakens the storm almost to extinction while the GEM brings it north towards eastern Canada where it phases with a coastal U.S. low to make a landfall in eastern Nova Scotia (about when it was earlier supposed to be near Ireland) … the GFS has never shown a westward turn but tonight begins to accept this to some extent by bringing Melissa towards eastern Jamaica where it lingers for two days before slowly heading across far western Haiti towards the Atlantic. From there, it never makes it to the jet stream disturbance train, and eventually weakens to nothing in the central ocean region west of the Azores.

    I am far from convinced that any of these three scenarios will verify, but I don't have any strong hunches about what does actually happen.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Models showing lots of energy in the Atlantic from midweek with LPs of varying track, depth and speed of forward motion. Jet looks meridional and coming up from the South towards the weekend. Has the look of being fairly disturbed weather at times but timing is all over the place at this stage. Has the look of being quite wet at times also.

    GFS had ben showing stormy weather around Sat but backed off and now back on it again. Only an indication or possibility at this stage and going to take days to get a clearer picture when there is so many moving parts at play but certainly has potential to be that bit lively at times.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


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    💩… Can we rewind to Spring?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Remnants of Melissa set to move into our latitudes sometime early next week but in what form, if absorbed into other systems, how much energy left, track etc very much to be determined in time. The Atlantic is mobile enough even without it but it may just harmlessly head up as a decaying low towards Iceland.

    So far GFS showing lots of LP influence into next week with spells of wind and rain but as yet no stand out feature.

    ECM the same and showing it to be a bit windy Monday coming. UKMO showing very windy next Monday. ACCESS-G windy and wet from later Sun through Monday.

    In general has the look of being unsettled.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,660 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Looking wet and windy at times this weekend and next week. Not as unsettled through the second week but a westerly airflow will persist with the best of any dry weather in the east and southeast. Signs of a drier second half of November developing

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,660 Mod ✭✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    as mentioned, there are signs that higher-than-average pressure may build near Ireland by mid-month. Latest computer models suggest the Atlantic conveyor belt of rain and wind could be slowed by blocking to our west and northwest. One to watch.

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