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Manual swapping car

  • 25-10-2025 05:00PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5


    Hi all,

    Not sure if this is the right place to post this but anyways.

    I have a mk4 golf 1.9tdi. As of now it has the 09a triptronic automatic gearbox. I was looking to in the future do a manual swap to the 6 speed. I have a donor car with all the bits I need available to me so no issues there.

    My question is, who do I need to contact to say the car has been swapped or do I even bother. A few people I've talked to said to just swap it and say nothing, but id like to not have my insurance cancelled if they ever found out.

    Further more would you even get insured on a manual swapped car.

    If anyone has gone through the process themselves any advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,627 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
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    "My question is, who do I need to contact to say the car has been swapped or do I even bother. A few people I've talked to said to just swap it and say nothing, but id like to not have my insurance cancelled if they ever found out."

    You should make an appointment with an NCT Centre to let them know that you have made modifications to the car because that is what this is. It will be a modification.

    My only advice on it is bring as much paper work as possible, bring the vehicle CoC and logbook if you have them and receipts for the work done. You will need yo have the vehicle information updated on the NCR site or Revenue to say it is no longer on auto but is a manual. Sounds like a lot of work to me. Why not just sell it and get a manual one?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭con747


    If you have an accident is what you should be concerned about because the policy would most likely be voided by not informing them you modified the car.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 hancal


    This specific car has sentimental value as it was bought by my granny new in 2004 and it's also an estate which I haven't seen for sale. Im not hugely pushed on converting it. Just wanted to see if it was hard to do it by properly informing all parties and the fact I have access to a donor car with everything id need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 hancal


    Yep, this is my main concern. So I was wondering how insurance would react to a manual swap😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭con747


    Have you rang any of them to get an idea if they would entertain it? Most if not all on the other end of the phone though wouldn't have a clue what to tell you i'm sure!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Ask them maybe, and they'll tell you. They might want an engineer's report or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭con747


    I just ran it through Perplexity Pro and this is what comes up.

    • Insurance Provider:
      You must inform your insurer of any major modifications, especially gearbox swaps, as it can affect your premium, coverage, or insurability. If your policy does not cover modified vehicles, switching providers to one that does may be necessary.
    • Motor Tax/Registration Authority (Ireland: NCT & NVDF):
      You should update your vehicle records with the National Vehicle and Driver File (NVDF), which is managed through your local motor tax office. Also, the National Car Test (NCT) must reflect the current vehicle specification for compliance and future inspections.

    Why It Matters

    • Legal Requirements:
      Not updating official records can cause legal issues during inspections or resale, and may invalidate insurance in case of an accident or theft.
    • Insurance Risks:
      If the gearbox type listed on your insurance differs from the actual vehicle configuration, claims could be denied.

    Typical Steps

    • Complete the swap.
    • Get confirmation/documentation (ideally from a garage, even if you did it yourself).
    • Notify insurance and provide updated specs plus any documentation required.
    • Update the vehicle registration with your local motor tax office, providing details and ideally a copy of the invoice or engineer's report if needed.
    • Get an NCT retest if the swap changes stated details (if requested).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭kirving


    You will need to tell you insurance company too. The manual swap in itself isn't an issue, but simply the fact it's modified could put it into a higher category. Call them in advance to see what the story is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭Dirty Nails


    Can't help feeling that what you're going to attempt has "world of pain" stamped all over it. Not legally, it's a conversion not a modification - just declare it & not mechanically if you have a donor. The problem really starts when you've enough time put in to it to discover that it has different engine codes & ECUs,wiring looms etc doesn't match. You need to do a lot of research there before you commit yourself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    If the end goal with the car is to further modify it and also have it making more power (however in depth ya go with that) then ya the manual swap would be worthwhile. Clearly this is on your mind since you've a donor car already.

    If going at it yourself there's a world of info online and ai is actually quite good on summarising this.

    Asking on the autostadt FB page for mechanic recommendations would be a good move. Far better off with someone who's well used to still working on MK4 platform cars if going the mechanic route. Also a great place to ask for help on any issues ya might encounter.

    However if the end goal is to have the car clean and original for driving about the odd time then I'd not bother if the auto box is still working sound.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 hancal


    Id get that on a newer car but thankfully these aren't bad. A small bit of modification to the loom for the reverse switch etc and telling the car through vcds it's a manual



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 hancal


    Your bang on, going at it myself and mainly doing it so I can get more power out of it. Just wanted to do the swap on the books to avoid any future head ache. But if I cant get it insured swapped ill just leave it auto and get as much power as I can out of it within the limit of the auto box and torque converter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭kirving


    You'll also have to declare any power modifications to your insurance company. 99% of the time the insurance company won't check it, but if god forbid you're involved in a serious collision, they can do it easily.



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