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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,818 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Just for posterity.

    The fallout from this one, in my opinion, will be far reaching. Despite the role being ceremonial and generaly not making a blind bit of difference to the regular citizen, the parties that were behind CC have learned a lot. FF and FG have been absolutely deplorable in some of their actions and if they don't get the message at some point and enact changes to how the country is run, this could be their last stint in government for a few years .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    • Can the President criticise the Government publicly?

    Both candidates said they would speak for the people and Connolly specifically mentioned the 'welfare of the people' clause.

    • Will you ever make an address to the Oireachtas or Nation on a matter of national importance under Article 14.7?
    • If so, will you submit your address for Government approval?

    They must do both these and as both candidates said they would fufill their constitutional duties I have no reason to doubt them

    • Will you communicate with foreign Heads of State without Government approval?

    Again, they cannot do that if they fulfil their constitutional role, and both said they would.

    • Would the President be a hypocrite to criticise the government but always doing its bidding?

    No. A President has a duty to do the government's bidding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "You don't have a #3 vote. You have a #3 preference."

    Okay then I gave my 3rd preference vote to Jim Gavin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭corkie


    @liamtech It is RTE crediting the group behind spoilthevote.ie as the originator of it and not themselves?

    Their was a quite a good amount of traffic on socials before that website was thrown together. I got a lot of blocks on socials from me promoting it. Going back to 27 days ago when they started.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Did you mean the fallout?

    We have 3 and a half years to the next local elections, over 4 years to the next general election.

    We have a strong majority, a well-resourced exchequer and a stable society. In other words, all the power, and all the money. Catherine Connolly cannot and does not affect that in any way. We will send her legislation, and she will sign it, or she can resign.

    Theres a blip, not a mess. If the lesson is to become more aggressively and rabidly centre-right, thats what will be done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Wrong. Let's get this history straight because you won't read it anywhere else.

    The Government never elected a President but you are referring to the fact that FG while in Government handed the Presidency to FF on three successive occasions when FG were the only party that could have challenged FF.

    It started with the tragic death of Erskine Childers in office in 1974. FG agreed to the FF nominee Cearbhaill O Dalaigh, a former FF candidate and AG, because FG feared the electorate more than an FF President. FG behaved so badly towards O Dalaigh that he resigned two years later, triggering a crisis which damaged FG and they had to accept another FF President, Paddy Hillery.

    Poor Hillery agreed to a single term but in 1983 FG were again fighting shy of the ballot box and Haughey didn't want another split in FF so Hillery was stuck for a second term. By 1990, FG were so reduced in morale by the PD defections that they were ready to concede the Presidency for a fourth time in a row.

    FG didn't reckon on Dick Spring who changed the course of Irish history by ignoring his Left-wing (Noel Browne and his side-kick Michael D.) and nominating the least Left-wing (former) member of the Labour Party. She rallied the anti-FF vote and overtook Brian Lenihan on the second count with FG transfers. O tempora, o mores!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Instead we had endless boring debates where journalists couldn't even pin down an anti-EU, anti-American, pro-Brexiteer who hired a convicted gangster as her Parliamentary assistant and who went as a guest of the Assad regime while it was massacring its own people.

    Still at this nonsense? You've learned nothing from this election. Lies and framing falls short sometimes...now dry those tears and have some humility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,362 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    So the government decided who the president was with no election. Doesn't sound like I was wrong.

    You also left out our first President who was decided by government and McAleese second term which was unopposed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Jeepers, the mask well and truly slipped.

    FF and FG need to stop being reactive and considered.

    Man up and merge your parties.

    We need to start demonstrating to people the good place that we have put the country in, and telling them that they'd better start been more ****ing grateful for it. “

    In terms of Justice, Health, Corruption, Housing, Equality, Education, Fairness, Reunification, Real Irish issues and those that get up early in the morning - You have abjectly failed. There are no serious people in your party, just spoofers - McEntee, Regina Doherty, the passport express woman - is evidence of this.

    We need to destroy SF”

    Good luck with that, they stand up to bullies, FFG are no different. An Phoblacht Abú.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,438 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Quick calculation, trending at 975k plus or minus a big margin



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    With more years of being hammered by Doherty, Mary-Lou and the soft left in the Dáil, having discredited leaders and no new leaders due to MM and Varadkar getting rid of them all.

    Post edited by An Claidheamh on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    And if Phil Hogan was the one pulling the strings behind the scenes in Heather's campaign there is a good chance that his big ass has already been bounced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,908 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Oh yeah I always give everyone a preference as well, just for the sake of completion - even though I know that the Nth preference is unreachable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Be nice if Chris Donoghue was bounced too...obnoxious guy, delighted his strategy blew up in his/their face...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,908 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Is there a particular reason why Humphries did so badly in Donegal compared to most other constituencies? I'm guessing the tenuous Orange Order connections would have played particularly badly there - is that it or is there something more to it than that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    From the comments today, Martin may be on very thin ice. Martin and Varadkar did get rid of any potential challengers. Varadkar elevated the mediocrities McEntee and Harris because he seemed to think that they were not challengers to his leadership. Replacing one mediocrity (Varadkar) with another (Harris) is not a good thing. FG, as this election has shown, is so incompetent that it might make McEntee its next leader rather than Carroll MacNeill. FG is in a worse state than FF after this election.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Donegal is SF/Redress territory. Both govt parties have forgotten that part of the country since the formation of the state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,089 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Calling other people scum because they have different opinions to yourself. How very left of you. Nearly 60% have not voted in this election. Of those that did 10% spoiled their vote.

    What does that tell you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Leinsterview


    And (it shouldn't matter but it does) quite attractive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Pyrite.

    A very large cohort in Donegal seem to believe that the taxpayer should be on the hook for 100% of their defective homes, which they bought and built privately.

    Fine Gael has resisted that to a large extent.

    And so our candidates invariably get a bad time up there. But overall its irrelevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Mary Lou is deluded if she thinks everyone thatvoted cc is going to vote left next time…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    I’d say if anything, Donegal would would be far less likely to react to those Orange Order tenuous links that were brought up - a lot of that is very much part of the complicated landscape up there, especially in east Donegal - it’s less controversial than it might be in places that are further away from NI tbh. I have Donegal family and they were actually commenting that they thought that was below the belt - it had a whiff of sectarianism about it, but they still weren’t voting for her - but for political reasons, nothing personal. If anything she has a better grasp of the border counties and rural Ulster than many politicians, but they still don’t like the current government.

    When you look at it, with the exception of a few well known local candidates, FG seems to not resonate very much with Donegal voters and there’s a rather anti-government vibe up there at the moment due to numerous issues ranging from pyrite to the fact they feel they’re often forgotten about and overlooked for infrastructure investment.

    I’d say it was more about giving the government a bit of a kick tbh - also a very strong SF vote in Donegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Leinsterview


    I voted for HH. C'est la vie; that's democracy. Fingers crossed that Connolly will have the wit to keep her more incendiary inclinations under wraps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,362 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Thinking some people are less deserving of human rights just because they are gay or women is scummy. She is a disgusting person so save your fake outrage because I have no shame in calling a scumbag a scumbag.

    People didn't vote or spoiled their vote for a number of reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Leinsterview


    I have been trying to think through the Northern implications. There is a curious unionist double standard in situations like this:

    A hypothetical Humphries win:

    'So what. This granddaughter of a loyal son of Ulster has been transgenerationally Lundyised. A warning as to how our children will be brainwashed in a United Ireland.'

    Humphries' defeat:

    'There you are. It proves what we always said: the South is a bigoted, sectarian hell-hole where Ulster Protestants would not get a pinhead of justice.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,089 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Could it be that no candidate represented their point of view on the direction of the country so there was no one to vote for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Considering FF got over 2.5x the vote of FG here I would say it’s more to do with FG being mouthy,condescending,preachy insufferable knobs. Exhibit A. Zero FG representation up here but as you says it’s irrelevant, that’s exactly the sort of thing that’ll win you votes keep it up. Not even an ounce of humility even after all your posturing all week. Embarrassing spectacle really.

    And 9% voted for the redress party, same as FG combined here. Both pretty irrelevant. We also had the loser FG candidate go on the radio after and cry and make a show of herself blaming people here for her not being elected. FG certainly does seem to attract those dose types. Cough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,753 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Turnout per RTE currently at 46.2 percent and counting …

    All presidential elections

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    This puts it right in the middle , or average turnout

    Like what's the point in the lies? Why lie when it's easily to disprove. A few of you have done it now and you'll jaunt off and pretend you never said it

    You literally said lowest on record. , absolute spoofer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,753 ✭✭✭✭listermint




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