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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭almostover


    It appears that a deportation order is equivalent to, politely asked to leave. Like many laws in this country, we pat ourselves on the back for creating them yet don't bother enforcing them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭almostover


    Mod Edit: Warned for discussion of matters before the courts

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    @almostover don't post in this thread again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    We have a serious problem in this country with both legal and illegal immigration’.

    I welcome people like most people who come here legally to contribute to society based on there skill set.iInward immigration should be a benefit for the host country not a burden and as a first world country we should have our fair share of refugees that have been properly vetted though UN programs.

    We have our self serving politicians to thank for this mess how they can look good to the world and once they get voted out at election time a nice job awaits in an NGO/UN etc for being liberal and progressive and we have no credibile opposition to speak up for people who are worried .

    Also as we also know there are a lot of well connected people making a lot of money from our hard earned taxes on this which could be spent elsewhere.

    I don’t post on this tread but I read it everyday. I cannot understand how some people can defend the government’s policies on immigration. I listen in the morning on my way to work to so called journalists interview politicians softly on this subject carefully and using very politicaly correct language with no backbone what so ever to challenge them properly and then our politicians do there best to dance around the answers with just pure waffle.

    I fear the only way out of this mess is a UK /IE solution most of the people who are coming here to claim asylum are most likely coming from the UK where they have entered ligetametly or entered illegally on tourist visas or on illegal maritime vessels on the channel and coming across here to claim asylum known we are a soft touch A strong deterrent needs to be agreed it’s the only way to stop this and to be honest I’m not to sure how this can be achieved.

    Wether we like it or not it’s looking like Farage could be in number 10 and you can rest assure if he does get in the UKs asylum problem will become ours.

    Unless our politicians get grips on this there is going to be civil unrest here now and in future generations and it’s also going to tear communities and people apart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭Will0483


    The Roma are in fact an excellent example of the impossibility of integrating some illegal immigrant groups. They arrived in Europe from India around 500 years ago. Since then, they've been nothing but a huge drain on Europeans wherever they have settled. They are consistently found begging,stealing and defrauding taxpayers in every country and will likely continue doing the same for the next 500 years as we are too soft to do anything about them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    That’s exactly what it is, we’ll even keep paying to put you up even if you don’t leave

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/23/about-500-people-subject-to-deportation-orders-living-in-international-protection-facilities/

    Additionally this article states there are over 5000 people who have been granted their asylum status that are still living in the IPAS centres - we are just importing thousands of dependents who will never be able to support themselves.
    What chance have they of getting accommodation etc in the mess of Ireland’s rental sector?

    Finally, article also states that if an applicant claims to be a child they given “the benefit of the doubt”. Absolutely insane and there are most certainly children in state care that are being put at risk by being accommodated with some adults posing as children.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I'm concerned that we risk de-skiling the unemployed, or not upskilling existing workers, if ready-made skilled workers can just be imported as the sole solution. I think in other countries this is a factor in the unrest.

    When I heard years ago that the government had left hundreds of millions of an EU training fund for Ireland unspent, I wondered is that why.

    We should be training workers for the technology of the future- AI - instead of creating another housing bubble.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 19,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Dept of Justice, signed by the Justice Minister.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,803 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Well it wasn't white folk wiping my friends arse thrice daily in 2024 when his arms didn't work



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,803 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    That's it in a nutshell, the government handed the rioters this situation and even gift wrapped it so let them on until they get tired



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    So you're saying there was someone who emigrated legally to the country who had a valuable skill and was in employment and able to look after themselves and don't rely on state support constantly.

    What's that got to do with people who clearly emigrate here to leech off the system and contribute nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,803 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Im not 100% certain hospital carers earn enough to survive in this climate but my point was they'd be more entitled to be on a housing list then say for example women beheading crime cover uppering filthy lazy 5 bedroom house living biffo roma scum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Donegal is just a dumping ground for refugees. I can’t find recent figures but the most recent ones I did find is that Donegal has the highest number of international protection applicants outside of Dublin and the highest per capita. For Ukrainians it’s 4th for absolute numbers behind Dublin and close to cork/kerry.

    More and more apartment complexes are just for refugees. In my local town the vast majority of apartments are housed with refugees. There’s f all resources to deal with the sheer increase in population, it was a struggle before that. We’re a peripheral county after all.

    I’ve nothing against anyone personally and I’m not against helping people but the current set up is a complete piss take. You have people claiming asylum who aren’t genuine refugees and milking us. Once again I don’t hate them, they want a better life for themselves but that’s not our problem and they’re taking away resources from genuine refugees.

    I’m my life I’ve never seen people so pissed off. The town as I said is just a dumping ground, there’s nothing here for them. A small number of refugees I doubt many would care but it’s just the sheer numbers, it’s too much for a small town to absorb overnight.

    Another small town had an apartment complex with 47 apartments, work to complete it fell through years ago and it lay dormant. 3 years ago the local paper reported it had been bought and a 4.5M make over was to commence and it’s great news for locals during the housing crisis. After a short few weeks, close to midnight the online local paper reported that it would be housing Ukrainian refugees and they would be moving in in the morning. No Ukrainians live there whatsoever. It’s just a money grab, they lied about it being Ukrainians and announced it late at night at the last minute. There's zero apartments to rent in my local area, my friend is on an estate agents list this 5 months for a place(any place) at this stage after moving home and he still has nothing yet the town is full with people from all over the world living for free and % of them are taking the piss. That will build resentment whether people think they’re above it or not.

    Mainstream parties really need to get their fingers out. In the last election here the only person who mentioned anything about immigration was an absolute far right head case, every conspiracy you can think of just an absolute cringey goon. Why can’t we just have normal politicians tackle it? The longer they ignore it, the more people will start listening to the loons as they will be only people voicing about immigration. For social issues I’d defo be more on the left, voted for abortion, gay marriage, pro supporting people on welfare, I believe in climate change etc so it’s not like I’m running around with a pitch fork every week shouting get them out. The naivety of some and the government just trying to ignore this continually will have ugly consequences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    The only protest that really matters is at the ballot box. All this talk about immigration was happening before the last General Election. I naively thought change was coming. But it seems most people went out and voted the same old parties again.

    There were candidates and smaller parties who weren’t happy with the current Asylum system. We don’t have to agree with them on everything but vote tactically to allow other voices into parliament. FF, FG and SF aren’t going to change course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth 8-bit


    I was sadly afflicted with the same nievete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    The problem is anyone on the housing list is by definition competeing with eveyone else on the list regardless of hard-working or freeloaders.

    In truth nobody should be coming here to work who need state housing support.

    Simple as. Thats an immediate net drain to society.

    Thats before we look at the people coming here who work jobs that pay them enough to house themselves but will be competing with everyone else for our other finite services, like education, healthcare etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Just a small aside, Roma were enslaved in Romania from at least Ottoman times into Romanian independence, until the mid-19th century. So it wasn’t all freebies and idleness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    change coming in Ireland! LOL

    I thought ‘change’ was coming to Ireland when FF got a kicking in 2011, reduced to a single seat in Dublin. The Irish electorate decided to welcome them back with open arms and all was forgotten after what they done to the country.

    The problem is incompetence and failure is rewarded in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,122 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    So what do you do with the likes of home help carers etc? They're pretty much all foreign as it's not really a career many Irish people would want to get into. Doesn't pay much and how are they supposed to live?

    We will always need some level of low skill low pay immigration unless we become the first country to start paying carers etc enough money to compete with other workers, but that isn't happening any time soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I dont subscribe to your racist opinion that only foreigners can do low paid low skilled jobs.

    So I cant answer your question im afraid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,122 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭dmakc


    "Then who's going to clean your toilet Donald Trump"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,734 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    a deterrent isn't possible and can't be achieved.

    you cannot deter migration, it's a fact of life and the minority need to come to terms with the reality that our migration policy is generally fine.

    the only issue is staff to resource it and that is being worked on.

    the journalists and all else understand that an insufficient amount of people share your specific views so are not going to waste their time pandering to them and quite right, just look to the UK as to what happens when you pander to the vocal minority as the media and even it's government are doing.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I'd slightly disagree.

    Protest can be more effective than electing a few TDs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Look to the UK? All i see in the UK is a tinder box of racial tensions due to unmitigated migration.

    Is that what you want us to look at or something else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    No sympathy for the UK tbh. Britain destroyed many countries over the years. Wiped from their history books of course.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭Will0483


    Illegal migration is a crime and can most certainly be stopped. We could deport every non-Irish citizen living in Ireland if the political will was there. Donald Trump is literally deporting millions of people as we speak so this idea that we are powerless victims of illegal immigration needs to be stopped.

    We don't have to pay billions of Euro a year to house,feed and clothe anyone that rocks up to our border with a made up story. This has all been a huge scam and a way to funnel taxpayers money to connected people.

    The UK is a perfect example of how mass third world migration rots a country from the inside out. If they could turn back the clock, they would never have allowed millions of third-world immigrants to permanently settle there. It has been a disaster and the UK will never be the same again. We foolishly are making the exact same mistakes as them and Ireland as we know it will be done for within a generation or two if it's not stopped.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,734 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    no it's a tinderbox of racial hatred due to oily con artists sturring it up.
    there is no unmitagated immigration in the UK, what there is however is a deliberately manufactured crisis of not having a proper immigration system and sufficient staff and resources to properly manage everything like it once had.
    the issue for the racists in the UK is not migration, it's the fact there are non-white people in the first place and they can't come to terms with it.
    the politicians generally know this which is why few listened, but when the likes of johnson and starmer got in and perged the somewhat sensible people from their parties and became racist reform lights we now have the pandering to the vocal minority that we have there with both non-reform parties losing their core voters and tanking.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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