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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Caquas


    The cab rank rule doesn't apply to successful barristers. Do you think Mary Robinson or Mary McAleese sullied their hands with repossession cases? Imagine the absurdity of President Connolly appointing Judges of the Superior Courts - like a lowly gaffer on a film crew being made President of Paramount and handing out Oscars to Scorsese and DiCaprio.

    Of course I see nothing wrong with a barrister taking this work but don't get up the Dáil afterwards spouting about "criminal" banks.

    Why did FG pick on this issue when there was so much else that could be laid at CC door? And they made a such a hames of it, the Bar Council sprang to her defence. Did FG get anything right in this election?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,655 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    And yesterday they were banking on the 21% undecideds. A truly sure way of getting your candidate elected.

    On a wing and a prayer, comes to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭MFPM


    He's a prominent pundit/commentator who is an ex member of FG and has used his podcasts to cast the same aspersions on CC that FG have and the clown, Defoe, masquerading as a journalist has not pushed back against him at all. There's no issue whatsoever in critiquing him.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Criticise him all you want. I have no time for the man myself.

    It is the utterly fake association of him with the HH/FG campaign that is ridiculous. He was a FG TD 23 years ago. He had left the Dáil before Humphreys ever even became a councillor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The more moronic the case, the more the likelihood that the plaintiff is representing themselves

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I don't listen to 'paths to power', himself and Cooper are insufferable centre right bores but he's used the last two 'calling it' podcasts to attack CC and her campaign. I agree with you, I don't believe he's working for FG at all, but he's promoting the same bullsh!t that FG are articulating against CC but it's kind of semantics really…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Leo Varadkar said recently on Path to Power that he used to contact Ivan Yates on a regular basis to get a sense of the mood music on the ground or get some advice. He is lot closer to FG than you think.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,098 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    What we'll have on Saturday is re-affirmation of the presidency as an irrelevant old folks home with a dour nauseating occupant which, as I said before, would clear out the UN General assembly in record breaking time. No one is going to listen to her or care what she has to say.

    I think we should consider inviting the British Royal Family, his Majesty, to be our Head of State and dissolve the office of president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭rdwight


    Just watched part of debate from 1990 Presidential election. In terms of stringing words together to make a coherent case, all three candidates (Currie, Lenihan and Robinson) were streets ahead of what's on offer now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,098 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Totally. It's been depressing what we been left to choose from.

    There will be a record low turnout tomorrow and it will be well deserved.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Straight from playing dumb (what does anti-EU mean?) 

    No, you used the term 'anti-Eu', I asked you what does it mean, you've yet to reply.

    to a nasty, baseless smear ("your friend and ally Trump")

    Again,you introduced 'America' ….

    America’s defence of Europe against Putin.

    Last time I checked 'America' is ruled by Trump…so, no smear here, though interesting I touched a nerve!

    Bonus points for the speedy flip from "emerging neo-fascist activities"

    Just calling it as it is, ICE, are reminiscent of the Jewish hating groups that prowled the streets of Berlin in the 1930s.

    "genocide in Gaza"

    Yeah, it's kind of significant and it has been validated and supported by Trump and UVDL, Macron, Starmer etc…Not really sure your objection to it?

    Oh, but then you show that you do know what anti-EU means - "military-industrial complex"!

    Oh, I made no comment on what I understand 'anti-Eu' means, you stated it, I asked you a question, three posts later you've yet to explain choosing insted to critique me…how very HH/FG of you! 😉 as for MIC - just illustrating some evidence for it, as it's been ridiculed by journos and the FG/HH campaign.

    CC is anti-EU, anti-American and far to the Left of the Irish people.

    You, despite being asked, have provided no eveidence for the first two assertions, as for the last point - CC is about to be the 10th president of Ireland! You're echoing Harris tonight - Humphreys and Harris ask ‘middle Ireland’ to show the country is ‘not far left’ - of course, if CC wins it rather undermines theirs and yours thesis….and the 'if she wins' is now 'when she wins'..

    Anyway, if you decide you wish to have an actual discussion on these matters, instead of firing sleights, do let me know!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    The turnout doesn't matter a jot. Nobody will talk about it once it's over. The result matters and CC will win at a canter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭rdwight


    Didn't know he has law qualification. Can anyone remotely imagine him standing in court to help a bank repossess a home?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭MFPM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭robwen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Connolly is at 1/50. She reached 1/40 and then some. :)

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    CC was flanked by Pearce Doherty yesterday in Cavan.

    It shows how useless HH is when Doherty doesn't cost your rival votes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭almostover


    I would say that it's almost a certainty that CC will win reasonably comfortably tomorrow. Who may end up being effed are those who vote for her. Either 1 of 2 things will happen IMO.

    1. CC understands the role of president, will tone down her rhetoric and will go on to be a decent if unremarkable president. Those who voted for her thinking that it will go someway to solving crises such as the one in housing will be disappointed. The protest vote will be just that, as the president has no role in the day to day running of the country. Especially in 5 years time when again, most likely, we end up with a very disparate general election result again and the only parties who can agree a program for government are FF and FG, perhaps with a smattering of gene pool independents. This is what will most likely happen IMO.
    2. Or, God forbid, CC doubles down on previous positions such as being anti EU, pro-Brexit, anti-NATO, anti everything and creates a constitutional crisis where the president is openly challenging the elected government. Personally I can't see this happening, CC is too cute of a political operator to do this. She's just playing to her most ardent supporters to win their votes by not moderating some of the troubling positions she has taken in the past. She knows there is a sizeable vote out there who just want to stick it to the government and she will hardly tone down the populism now that's winning their support. If she continues in this vein then we're in for a very rough ride. Given that she represented banks in repossession cases and less than a decade later was decrying home repossessions by the very same banks it's likely CC knows what side her bread is buttered on. Mickey D got fond of the life in the big house and all the trappings that entails and only got vocal again when his time was almost up. CC's work as a barrister shows that she's well able to be a socialist of the champagne variety.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    ???? we've just had the budget and tax credits were not increased, not even in line with inflation. Tax bands weren't either.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    I'm going to go completely against the echo-chamber here, and predict HH to win.

    When I speak to anyone in my circle, who come from a wide and varied demographic, I have a funny feeling that HH may get more votes than a lot of people predict.

    Almost all of the people I've spoken to regard HH as the best of two evils. Even dogged Republican Nationalist friends of mine would rather vote for HH than CC.

    Many of them have pointed at the outright stifling media bias towards CC, and the the behaviour of Miriam O'Callaghan during the "as gaeilge" section of the recent TV appearance ( which to me was absolute rudeness, ignorance and bias against HH, and I say that as a fluent Irish speaker here in the West of Ireland), as reasons for leaving a bitter taste in many folks mouths.

    I could be completely wrong of course, but I think the building arrogance of the CC camp may have crossed the line for a surprisingly large portion of the population.

    Anyone else thinking the same?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,856 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Its been put forward as how they will deal with cost of living. Energy prices. Instead of one off payments and energy credits.. People will get a 'tax credit' .. The wording may be different but it was mentioned a while ago, long before the budget

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭almostover


    Hugely unlikely I would say. I think the surprise may be that the margin of victory for CC may end up being quite small. But it's hard to see her losing. If she does then the bookies are in for a rough day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭MFPM


    No. There is 0 chance of HH winning unless there's been some conspiracy with the polling companies!! There is no building arrogance, there's confidence but a bit of a wry smirk at the abject failure of the centrist media to land any punches though they've tried!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    There is one other point I neglected to mention too.

    There is a huge, underlying, simmering anti-immigration sentiment behind all the pretty doors and lace-curtained windows of almost every town and village in Rural Ireland.

    It's there in every conversation, in the back of almost every person's mind, more than one can imagine outside the M50. Anyone who thinks that there isn't is being very naive.

    So, bearing this in mind, and considering the hype and attention in relation to the on-going situation at City West, there is a strong possibility that much of the demographic aligned to CC may not come out to vote n the numbers expected, whereas those against the very leftist views of CC may choose HH, DESPITE her support from the government.

    I know this point seems counterintuitive, but anti-immigration sentiment is very much the elephant in the room outside of Dublin, and stranger things have happened in elections.

    Apathy and arrogance may bite CC's chances, especially if the very motivated anti-left voters come out in favour of HH in the required numbers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    This doesn’t make much sense in fairness. HH was until recently a member of the government that has presided over this immigration mess and her party is still in power. Even if CC is a big hippie when it comes to immigration I’m not sure how that’s going to win HH any votes from people who think the current situation is a farce(myself included)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    I think you are right. A lot of Ireland is centrist, not hard left, and many people do not want to risk our relationships with EU, Americans etc, their pensions etc. A close relation who is a Garda says all his colleagues are voting HH for the following reason:

    "If elected, Connolly would be commander-in-chief of the Defence Forces, with access to all their intelligence files on internal subversion. We know how seriously she takes such responsibilities: she invited Ursula Shannon – a former member of the republican group Éirígí who served four-and-a-half years in prison after being convicted, by the Special Criminal Court, of unlawful possession of firearms – to be a member of her staff. This during a time when Shannon was under surveillance by Garda anti-terrorism officers"!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Such dishonesty and fakery! Like you don't know what "anti-EU" means. Let me pretend to help you out. It's when you praise the Brexit voters and campaign against every EU Treaty and criticise everything the EU does while pretending to be pro-Europe. Who does that remind you of?

    I say America so you say Trump is "my friend and ally". Pure shameless smear.

    I won't waste time with the rest of your nonsense. It's typical Far-Left loony-tunes but soon they will have the backing of the President of Ireland for their lies and BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭gk5000


    Hope so, as opposed to think so.

    Here, boards is totally biased in defence of CC, as if her s**t don't smell.

    I as a centrist and localish HH supporter can see her flaws as a communicator, but she's basically sound.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭gk5000


    The above was in reply to greenpilot if anyone though HH had a chance.

    One think about hunting and rural pursuits , traditions; though HH did not articulate it very well:

    Much of it is about rural men having an interest, getting out in the fresh air, and having a common goal with other men - very good for wellbeing.

    You can't just go out for a walk over neighbours fields for no reason, but if you have a a shotgun then you look like you have a purpose, so it's ok.

    It's not cool for urbannites to knock it, unless they fully understand it and the full rational behind it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    https://www.thejournal.ie/sean-kelly-not-running-contest-big-mistake-heather-humphreys-6853046-Oct2025/

    Sean Kelly and Billy Kelleher will be wondering what might have been.



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