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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭scuba8


    I really do wonder if trump is beholding to Russia. Is he doing Putin’s work for him?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭somenergy


    Americans had a choice and where warned

    He had been a bad 1 before did a great job hiding it perhaps that gap in-between helped.

    Dems should of had him behind bars 2021 for jan 6, they underestimated his determination and cult following, especially stalling all other legal challenges in 24.

    Keys of fort knox incoming.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    He had been a bad 1 before did a great job hiding it perhaps that gap in-between helped.

    He didn't hide it. It was clear to all that he was completely unsuitable for the role. People who didn't see it chose not to see it - much the same as now.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    He didn't hide anything. The difference is that he had some old establishment figures imposing very weak checks. Now, we have Project 2025 in full swing.

    As for your comment about the Democrats, this is part of the problem. It shouldn't have anything to do with them. In a Republic, the judiciary, the executive and the legislature are supposed to be separate entities. Clearly, the judiciary was and remains captured which undermines the legitimacy of the Federal state. On the one hand, the Democrats adding more Justices to the Supreme Court might have led to more accountability but it would also have been more partisan meddling which would erode the legitimacy of the Court.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭randd1


    I think we're ignoring one very reasonable aspect to this whole craziness; Trump's America is America now.

    They know exactly what Trump is, who he is, what he's like. They've known for a long time. They just don't care.

    Voting this in once, you could understand as giving it a slap to the system that was increasingly pushed to screwing over Americans. Voting for him again after the first time, even though he lost big, well that was a warning to say that half of America is very much like this. A third time and voting him back in; well that's America wants.

    Trump is what America wants. He may be a symptom of their broken politics, but he is also a manifestation of the direction of their psyche.

    Either through the rabid support and democracy ruining of the degenerate Republicans or the obeisance of the inept and broken Democrats, this is what America is right now, at least the majority.

    So how do Americans look at this and think this is ok? Because that's what the majority of America is like now, that's why. The majority of Americans want this, that's why they're ok with it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭scuba8


    I think you should study your history. The East Wing was started in 1902. It is iconic and is part of American history. tRump lied to the American people, again, when he told them the wing would not be touched.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,964 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Trump offers certain types of people an outlet for their spite. You know the sort. You can see them on here from time to time. They'll be happy to lie to themselves and everyone else til they're blue in the face about, practically, anything so long as they think that someone else is getting hurt in some way. Even when it's demonstrable that Trump and his like are a detriment to everything, they'll still go along with it.

    Millions voted for Trump in the hope that people they don't know, and have never met, might feel the squeeze because of him, only to find out that they were the ones getting squeezed…and the thing is, given the choice, a lot of them would do the same thing over and over again.

    America has never really been a society, in the terms that we know in western Europe. It's made up of too many disparate groupings. Groupings that are all too ready to descend into fractious, factional, warfare based on easily manufactured antagonisms. This has never been more illustrated so clearly as in the last decade and the rise of Trumpism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭mountain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Yes. I'm well aware. I'm related to several and I would daily be thanking God if I was a Christian that my Father lacks the requisite intelligence to create an account on X.

    There's this weird cognitive dissonance on display where today farmers are wailing about Trump's insipid trade war wrecking their livelihoods and tomorrow they're voting Republican because something something woke, trans, or whatever.

    I think the US is as much of a society as any other. There's just a much stronger emphasis on the individual and much less of a welfare state. The mainland US was never directly bombed during World War 2 whereas most of Europe was either bombed or occupied. Most European welfare states are the direct result of that conflict. The British tossed out their victorious wartime PM in favour of Clement Attlee's Labour party which created the National Health Service, among other things.

    This was never a problem as the US just continued to innovate and grow and there was jobs for everyone. Now that the model is stuttering, the flaws and inequalities become more and more stark. There was always inequality but there was also enough growth and opportunities to keep the middle classes healthy and happy. The system is just not set up to cope with this and if the immigration stops, whole communities are just going to die.

    MAGA isn't the solution to either this or any problem but we are all responsible for the choices we make. If the American people want a decomposing bigoted fascist as their leader and if they want to worship him as a God, then they can eat the consequences.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Apple Dumpling


    His MAGA supporters are on the breadline and losing their health benefits while he spending $300m on a ballroom no one wanted or asked for be is also about to get $300m off the DOJ because he wants it and his tariffs is killing their businesses while also ignoring his America first promises as he gives Argentina 20 billion and he refuses to release the Epstein files and yet despite all this he can still do know wrong with them.

    America deserves everything it gets especially those who didn’t vote or refused to vote in the last election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    The next president that is elected should take a wrecking ball to Trumps White House ballroom and reconstruct the east wing from it's original plans.

    That should be one of the election promises. Will probably get the candidate over the line in 2028.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Republicans have never been fiscally responsible. That's just a myth to justify tax and public services cuts. Don't underestimate how many MAGAs are doing just fine and will vote purely based on getting more and more tax cuts. They love to pretend that it's a working class movement but fascism has always been a rich man's pursuit. Here in the UK, we had a former King and several aristocrats and corporate leaders who were all for it.

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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    Exactly, the US was never a country. Europe is far more cohesive than the US and its difficult to get agreement on many things. The general US population agree on nothing. For a country that proports to be the home of free speech, there's nothing they love more than impinging on others free speech. The southern states are religious zealots who then proceed to break every single commandment they claim to follow. The coastal cities are on the other end of the scale. Religion doesn't play a part in most peoples lives but yet they seem to have more morals in general than their southern cousins. The rust belt is living in the past, yearning for the 50s, completely unaccepting of what the world has become or their place in it.

    Hate is where a large portion of the population reside. Hate and envy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,891 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Probably no harm having a big function room in the White House. It will just need a complete refurb to remove the pound shop Versailles look.

    And while they are at it name it the "Virginia Giuffre Centre" or the "Joe Biden Wing"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I think the name that's catching on is the Epstein Wing

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The German Finance Ministry is paying the October wages of 11,000 + workers employed on the U.S military bases there with a plan to recoup the money later from the U.S. administration, as a result of the federal Govt shutdown.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    My bad. It was heavily rebuilt in 1942 to cover the bunker.

    Original: Looked pretty OK to me.

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    Later, extended, almost entirely refaced front and sides, and a new floor added. Not quite as historic and architecturally pleasing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,662 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Especially those wailing farmers, most of whom are regretting not being able to take a lux vacation, make the payment on a new $1,000,000 combine, or hire illegals to drive their farm equipment. These are wealthy people. This isn't your typical small farmer you might be used to seeing in Ireland.

    I can't re-recommend this video enough for a detailing of just who these people are and what their issues really are. this is someone that ran for Ag commissioner in North Carolina and knows of what she speaks. Highly recommended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'll check out the video later.

    Not to be nitpicky but is that a Combine Harvester you're referring to for a mere $1,000? Presumably you mean an individual $1,000 payment on the thing.

    We saw something similar in the UK last year when Labour closed a tax loophole. Jeremy Clarkson and a load of other parasites turned up playing the victim card. I grew up on a farm and there's no way I could take days off to sit in a tractor on a main street in the capital virtue-signalling where there were animals needing feeding and a horde of other things.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    Good luck with that. Trump stiffs people who spend money on his projects more regularly than he eats Big Macs. He'll find a way to say the US was owed it for all the money they spent on NATO.

    Better to leave them sit and contemplate the repercussions of supporting Trump in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    RTE drive-time news programme is reporting that the EU is preparing, in principle, to freeze Russian assets to hand over funds to Ukraine, possibly for National Defence purchase needs. Zelenskyy is in the Eu today for talks, which may involve war reparation payments to Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Yes it always felt a bit weird calling them "farmers".

    I am not intimate with their situation but if they were described as people and land exploiters it might be more accurate.

    What also surprises me is that their electoral support should be especially valued since they can only make up a very small section of the voting electorate I would have thought-even in those rural communities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,484 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Virginia Giuffre's ghostwriter reveals Epstein list time bomb

    Something has to blow bigtime on Epstein Files very soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,662 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    twas a typo, you saw the pre-edited version, combines are $1,000,000 plus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No worries.

    The video was well worth watching. Coming from a small Irish farm, I keep forgetting how rich farmers in other countries are.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,662 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Thing is, those are small states (population wise) and these wealthy farm-owners carry a huge influence. And, a bunch of small population states eventually adds up to enough electoral votes to matter (cf. Clinton, Hillary 2016)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,662 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I came across an estimate of approximately 900 million acres under cultivation in the US. About 80 times Ireland if I believe the numbers of Goog AI.

    Wealthy people buying farms (another right-wing bugbear) has been estimated about 250k acres, so that's much ado about nothing.

    It'll be awhile before all that acreage turns into housing in the US (another right-wing bugbear.)



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    Any news on Venezuela? It looks like there's chatter about Venezuela setting up air defenses but I don't see anything official.



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