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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭Derkaiser93


    It's great to see some sort of movement and sentiment mobilised against Trump and his administration via the protests. However, unfortunately, as we've seen for a long time now especially with the Palestine protests they don't really do anything or change much.

    When it comes to absolutely crucial stuff like Trump and climate change we need to take industrial action and have mass strikes across all sectors and jobs. Imagine if a good chunk of the population went on strike in banking, finance,civil service, transport, manufactoring , the economy and state would grind to a halt and it would hit the elites and government where it hurts. They'd genuinely have to pause and think and even be strong armed into a change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    That would only hurt us all even more, and China would be laughing at us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,915 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    China are already laughing as hard as they can.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I think you over estimate how many people really care about Trump, just because a whole load of people on this thread and on parts of the internet are obsessed with him doesn't mean everyone else would be interested in going on a strike against him. Most people go about their day completely indifferent about him and anything to do with him. Trump hating is a hobby for some people, most other people are too busy with their lives and other hobbies to be concerned about him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    If they are going to get what they deserve, the investigations need to start now. Everything should be in place on the day they hand over the keys to the whitehouse. Immediately arrested and charged on the day. No more fooling around like they did with Trump. Wasted 4years on the election interference charge until it was too late to charge him and he became President. That should have been done within 18 months of him leaving office and he should be in prison now, not fcuking up the world.

    Miller, Leavitt, Vought, Hegseth, Homan, Patel and Johnson should be first to fall.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,452 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They won't. It reminds me of a quote:

    “America was waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that one-third of our people will kill one-third of our people while one-third of our people watches.”
    ― Harlan Coben, The Boy from the Woods

    Any attempt to seriously hold them to account is going to result in violence. They couldn't even concede in 2020 without attempting a coup in January. On top of this is the fact that the opposition is far from united itself. Nobody is talking about changing the system which is what led the country here to begin with. Democrats still labour under the delusion that all will be well if they can oust the bad man with a good man.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭randd1


    US political discourse is essentially a meme war.

    One of the many reasons it will decline massively over the next few decade or so, there's no competent adults at helm, and very few brains voting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Apple Dumpling


    Shrapnel from the firing over the Highway in California hit Vance’s car.

    These people are beyond stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,110 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    The UK is already aping the US and we often follow the UK, so its going to affect the entire Western alliance. Politics in the West is devolving into culture wars where civil liberties allow all sorts of shíte to flourish. The baton has been handed to the East. In the west we'll continue to be pitted against one another by wealthy elites whilst the fruits of 200 years of advancements are eroded away. A dumbed down society fit for nothing but generating memes and "content".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,255 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    And then he will increase the tarrif on Argentina because they have a positive, around in circles.…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,031 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭Derkaiser93


    Yeah unfortunately I totally agree. In generally the majority of people don't care about vital issues about humanity and society.

    Most of us are distracted in our bubble trying to get by in life or distracted by the endless content available to us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭Derkaiser93


    No they won't. They'll be laughing when we destroy ourselves from not taking any action. We require real change and real change requires real action



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Saturday was one of the single biggest one day protests in US History, in terms of attendees.

    If you're ignoring that and considering the contributions to this thread as a measure of US public sentiment towards the President, then I don't know what to tell you.

    Trump hating might indeed be a hobby for some people, so too is kissing his orange ass for others, one is infinitely more harmful than the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,596 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Things that are true and might annoy Trump, his wife and family. Mehdi Hasan quote… “Donald Trump is the son of an immigrant, the grandson of an immigrant, and married to an immigrant,” . “In fact, two of his three wives were immigrants, proving yet again that immigrants will do the jobs even Americans are not willing to do.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    That's a Mehdi quote from the weekends speech alright, but it is heavily leaning on a meme that has been doing the rounds possibly even since Trumps first term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,719 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    The No Kings protests are a step in the right direction, but Manic is right in the sense that aren't going to impose cost on the Administration. The only non-violent action that will do so is a general strike. It's illegal in the US, but what value does the law have now? If the election next year is as compromised as it looks likely to be, I would anticipate a collective response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,256 ✭✭✭eire4


    Think your right on all counts there. Bottom line is that the corporate Democrats think the system is just fine and as you say all will be well if they win the next presidential election. Obviously that is utterly delusional head in the sand thinking but it is what they believe. Clearly to anybody looking in any way rationally at the US the fundamental problem they have even before this lurch towards authoritarianism is that their political system is utterly broken, corrupted and dysfunctional and has been for some time and that is what has lead them to the appalling state they are in now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Yes but as I pointed out the vast majority of people are indifferent about Trump or any other president, the president doesn't make one bit of difference to most people lives in America and I think people have gradually copped on to it and really don't care anymore and expecting a general strike against Trump (as was hoped for in the post I replied to) isn't going to happen.

    A small percentage of the American population are obsessed with praising Trump a small percentage are obsessed with hating him, the majority of sensible people just get on with their lives.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    So you don't think tariffs are or are going to have an impact on most people in the US?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,094 ✭✭✭✭briany


    You have to get rid of MAGA first. It might be correct, in principle, to prosecute Trump and his bunch of post-constitutionalist cronies, but there is the practical consideration of the political unrest it would cause. You can't really expect any of the former norms to hold like principles of liberal democracy or rule of law when half the voter base has essentially gone berserk and formed a cult of personality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Exactly right. Trump is a symptom of a broken system. He should be removed because is unfit to govern and he is actively harming American interests. The system of checks and balances should have severely curtailed his ability to cause havoc, yet Trump is allowed to do many unlawful things and to ignore the courts. I just hope that system hasn't deteriorated beyond repair and that the voting process removes the Republican majority from the parliament and Trump will be stopped in his most egregious actions.

    But what if a competent, yet completely authoritarian person becomes the president of the USA? Based on how easy it is to ignore the law for Trump, a more cunning operator can destroy the American democracy in months, because it is really easy to galvanize people when there are real problems, such as the rising income inequality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,719 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,596 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    There is no point in Trump meeting with Putin in Hungary as his telling Zelenskyy in Washington that Ukraine must not only accept Russian ownership of its national territory seized in the ongoing war BUT must also cede territory NOT in Russian hands to Russia has relayed what Russia wants.

    Its the same policy Trump read out to Zelenskyy in that infamous Oval Office meeting - surrender to Russia! I'm glad that Zelenskyy went in to the meeting prepared for Trump to shovel **** into his face after the last meeting and knew to keep cool in the face of the clown.

    With that policy, Trump is not a fit person to be president as it amounts to ceding nation territory to a foreigner. Were Trump to follow the advice he is giving Zelenskyy in making a deal with a foreign power, a large part of Texas would be ceded to Mexico.

    I don't know how to get it into the heads of Trump supporters, let alone those of U.S voters, that Trump is a waste of space in the Oval Office as far as their national interests are concerned. He's sold them out.

    Any sitting U.S president approving of and laughing at the A.I video showing him dive-bombing a U.S city and its citizens with **** should have approval ratings hitting the ground. It's not humour, its just sad to see a clown running such a great country into the ground. Even today he's talking about Ukraine and Russia as merely another war he has to stop, that its about two men (Zelenskyy and Putin who hate each other).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Americans are stupudz i known that's a sweeping statement but ffs.

    Turf him out and the rest of his stupid friends. They wont be his friends for long when he has nothing to offer them, and vice versa



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,651 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    That ship has sailed, I'm afraid. Anyone thinking that he's just going to leave at the end of his term is deluding themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,720 ✭✭✭✭fullstop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,031 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    I have to say, Trump sh1tting all over Americans while wearing a crown, whilst the White House is literally being dismantled, is the most accurate description of his second tenure I could ever imagine....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,206 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    When the yanks chime in the odd time about the threat from Islam (and there is to a degree), this is equally as mental and bewildering.



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