Northern Ireland 2125?

Even more amusingly in my own home county, the Ulster Gaeilge that originated in Donegal was taking precedence and would've been more widely spoken at the time of partition.

According to Blanch's logic, a fella speaking Ulster Gaeilge there on May 2nd 1921 was speaking a native language but the next day he wasn't. The hoops he jumps through to demean and diminish the Irishness of anyone from NI is pretty repulsive, particularly given his penchant for screaming sectarianism at everyone else at the drop of a hat.

If you are so desperate for a plan, why has'nt the SF party you follow come up with one. Because you know it is totally unrealistic.

After Brexit, people will not vote in a border poll untill all the details are ironed out and agreed. A BP / U.I. would be a lot more complicated / problematic than Brexit. As well as trade, you would have security, rioting, finance, taxation, health, policing, nato, parades, bonfire, culture, language, flags, national anthem, cost of living differences, pay differences, pensions, loss of free trade between N.I. and Britain etc etc

And a BP here will not happen until and if a majority of those in N.I. want a U.I.

There is a reason S.F. has not a clue what would happen in a U.I. As noted before, as well as trade, you would have security, rioting, finance, taxation, health, policing, nato, parades, bonfire, culture, language, flags, national anthem, cost of living differences, pay differences, pensions, loss of free trade between N.I. and Britain etc etc

And as we see this year SF is not a party of compromise, after refusing to allow a British government stand at a jobs fair in Derry, and after pushing Irish language in to PUL areas against the wishes of most people there. FACT.

N.B. a month ago SF had not a clue who would stand for them in the Presential elections, but leaked some days before the Saturday announcement it would be someone with strong GAA connections. That did not happen. Neither will a U.I.

At the time of the GFA, the bearded one said there would be a U.I. by 2016. It is 2025 now and as far away as ever.

Old proverb - never trust a man with a beard : he is always hiding behind something.

I have voted FF, FG, even Labour (for Robinson as President many years ago ) and independents. Not sure who you mean about Never Never Never? Maybe FG joining FF in government? Nothing to do with this thread IMHO.

It should not come as any surprise our national childrens hospital, still to be opened, is so expensive. Even a decade ago, Medicines 12 times more expensive here than in the UK

No wonder our VAT, excise duties, vrt on cars etc etc is so expensive to pay for that.

Despite high costs here ( high taxation, high VHI etc ) there are often long delays.

Can you explain, why even a decade ago, medicines were 12 times more expensive here than in the UK? For the exact same medicines? Rip off republic.

Do you enjoy paying a higher % VAT here, higher excise duties, vrt on cars etc etc compared to the UK. There is even VAT on new housing here : there is none in N.I. or the rest of the UK. So we are even getting screwed on housing here.

If there was a U.I. will they have to put VAT on housing too?

Take your first three words.

"Economies of scale". So you think, because medicines were 12 times more expensive here than in the UK, for the exact same medicines, it would financially be better for our HSE medicine purchases if it was part of the NHS, and the NHS was purchasing medicines for the whole geographicac area kown the world over as the British Isles?

Never thought I'd hear you say we'd be better off if the islands were united.

We'd have economies of scale then, you are right. And the government here is elected by the people, and has been for 100 years : if you are blaming the government you are blaming the people?

Why would people in N.I. want to pay 12 times more for their medicines?

Ireland is the only part of the EU without universal healthcare, so you are right, we have a fair bit of work to do in some areas to get our house in order.

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They said the same about Brexit. The opportunity Brexit presents is a whole new system for Britain. And a U.I. would be a lot more complicated, plus we would have to pay many billions per year, plus it would probably re-ignite the troubles. I suppose Gardai looking under their car every morning would be a new system for them too.

As it stands NI should not join us unless they want a load of IPAS centres and a substantial proportion of their budget to be spent on them + the NGOs that support them.

You'd have to wonder at this stage where some got their historical knowledge from.