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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    What response do you suggest? . Perhaps they could send Hamas a few Red Cross parcels instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 417 ✭✭tarvis


    The killings of the past three days shows up what happened in Israel and Egypt for the shams they were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    Hamas by all accounts were firing missiles. Perhaps Israel should have just put a big X on their troops positions and let Hamas fire away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    They're not exactly going o say we had Hamas terrorists using the cafe as a launchpad are they.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,680 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Coming out now with their usual lies saying they were fired on but no independent confirmation. They always come out with lies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,024 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Dirty yellow psycho evil cowards.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    You are supporting a terrorist genocidal state that has made it clear that it intends to steal all of Palestine and then move onto neighbour countries. That is a fact not an allegation just as the 90,000 dead Palestinians in the last two years is not alleged but a minimum - I have included a minimum estimate for the corpses still buried by Israeli bombs.

    Was Hind Rajab used as a human shield?

    https://news.sky.com/story/im-so-scared-please-come-heartbreaking-final-moments-of-girl-5-killed-in-gaza-13229813

    Were the family of 11 murdered a few days ago, human shields?

    You support scum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Indeed - just like those ambulances were unmarked and had no lights on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    And are still not allowing the press into Gaza which would of course expose those lies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,383 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,680 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    That is the tell tale sign of an oppressor and a Pariah. They don't like truth and never did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Infantino was at the summit in Egypt!

    One of the more unexpected attendees at the summit was Fifa president Gianni Infantino, who not only took a photo with Trump but also joined the group shot alongside the assembled world leaders.

    Social media users did not hide their confusion and bewilderment as to why the Fifa head was even there, while many others criticised football's international governing body's inaction concerning many Palestinian footballers and sportspeople. Hundreds of Palestinian football players and people associated with Gaza's football world were killed in the war on Gaza. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,680 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    infantini has his office in Trump Tower. Should be sacked as they are obviously using him to try to keep Israel in the World Cup. He will be the cause of FIFA breaking up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    This is a disgrace and anti-semitic. Gaza will have to be bombed to smithereens. Tel Aviv derby war cancelled :)

    “This was not a football game, but a case of serious disorder and violence,” the police said in an official statement. “As a result, Israel Police has informed the clubs and match officials that the game cannot take place.”

    The Israel Professional Football Leagues Association later confirmed that, based on police instructions, the match would not be held. The announcement was made about 20 minutes after the scheduled 8:30 p.m. start time, as the stadium remained covered in smoke.

    Update

    Police announce they have canceled a much-anticipated derby match between Tel Aviv’s rival soccer teams after riots broke out in and around the stadium.

    The match between Hapoel Tel Aviv and Maccabi Tel Aviv was set to take place tonight in the city’s Bloomfield Stadium, when fans began to riot.

    Police say fans threw objects at officers, lightly injuring them, and hurled flares and smoke bombs onto the field ahead of the game.

    Police arrested five on suspicion of disturbing public order and detained 13 masked fans after they allegedly lit flares and threw them onto the soccer field.

    A total of 51 flares and smoke bombs were thrown onto the turf, Ynet reports.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    Minimum? I thought hamas figures were exact and to be believed by everyone!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    Hamas isn't exactly going to confirm they were breaking the cease-fire by firing at Israel now would they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,322 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Iran?

    LOL. Iran is still licking their wounds from the pasting it got from the IDF and its air force some months back. The regime is barely hanging on by all accounts. They don't want to get involved again and are more or less casting Hamas aside.

    No, there is no White Knight in Iran coming to the rescue here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,322 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Hamas are really thick if they think they can just continue on and fight another phase of this war.

    They have no hostages anymore.

    They have no local allies.

    The PLA dont want them in Gaza

    Turkey, Egypt or Qatar dont want them in Gaza

    How do they think this is going to end for them?


    They should follow through with the 2nd phase of the agreement and give up their arms, and disband and let the Palestinians in Gaza move to a better future, without their Islamofascist ideology.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Welcome back.

    Weren't you were adamant that on the return of the hostages the Genocide war would be over?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Israel will get its way. It always does. The American elites are working on behalf of Israel more than America.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭comerla


    Its not about winning a 'war'. There is no war here, only oppression, calculated cruelty and genocide with a guerilla resistance a completely understandable (and legal under international law) response.

    We only have to look to the west bank to see what happens when Palestinians are defenseless.

    Anyway a sizeable majority of Israeli society is fully behind the genocide, so we can expect it to resume in time, whether or not some light arms and RPGs are handed over by whatever is left of Hamas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,680 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    They nearly wrecked Tel Aviv and I think Israel is in fear of them as the Golden Dome was really shown up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,680 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    From reading this thread a few months ago one would be forgiven for thinking that there was no longer a Hamas because Israel had killed them all and they made up most of the 60K dead in Gaza. Are we no longer to believe that ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Seems the police in Birmingham were right all along. Starmer will have to suck this one up. Imagine, Israeli unable to control a bunch of thugs yet well able to commit Genocide.

    And exporting those thugs would certainly seem to be off the cards. Who in their right minds would allow this bloodthirsty bunch to travel abroad? Seriously dysfunctional State for sure.


    On Sunday evening, Israeli sides Maccabi Tel Aviv and Hapoel Tel Aviv were set to face off in a huge derby match in the Bloomfield Stadium, the home ground shared by the two teams.

    Given the fierce rivalry between the local clubs, clashes between fans before, during and after the Israeli Premier League match was expected.

    The concerns come just days after fans of Maccabi Tel Aviv were banned from travelling to Birmingham for their Europa League match against Aston Villa in November.

    And it appears that the concerns were warranted, as shortly before kick-off it has been announced that the Tel Aviv derby has been cancelled due to safety concerns for both the players and fans.

    Ahead of kick-off in the derby match, fans of both clubs reportedly began throwing flares, smoke grenades and stones from the stands.

    Reacting to this, local police and match officials decided to send all players back into their dressing rooms and postpone the game until things had calmed down.

    Unfortunately, the situation only worsened, with local outlet Walla Sports claiming that several police officers and civilians were injured in the chaos.

    Ultimately, local police decided that it was clearly too dangerous for the match to go ahead, and an offical statement confirming it had been cancelled was released.

    It read: "Disorderly conduct, riots, object throwing, smoke grenades, fireworks, injured police officers, and damage to stadium infrastructure – this is not a football match, this is a serious public disturbance and violence.

    “In light of the disturbances and the endangerment of human lives ahead of the scheduled football match at Bloomfield Stadium, The Israel Police has informed the teams, team management, and referees that it has been decided not to allow the match to take place.

    “We call on the fans to remain in place until a calm and orderly dispersal takes place.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    The 70,000 are registered deaths, the rotting corpses under the rubble have not yet been registered. There is a conservative estimate of 20,000 of them but it could be multiples of that.

    p.s. any tips on how to distinguish rotting corpses by nationality?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    So you're now saying we can't believe Hamas figures. I'm glad we agree

    Any comment on the anti tank missiles Hamas fired at the IDF positions to break the cease-fire? No..thought not, doesn't suit the "it's Israel's fault" agenda.

    How about condemning Hamas executing civilians? Can't blame Israel in that one!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Palestinian Civil Defence agency says at least 40 Palestinians have been killed on Sunday in Israeli attacks on Gaza – including on a school sheltering war-displaced civilians, with women and children among the dead.


    Savages!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Hamas were desperate to end the conflict and were looking for a permanent ceasefire. It would make no sense whatsoever for them either politically or militarily to try and restart the "war" again. Indeed, many observers felt Trump's peace plan favoured Hamas and not Israel - the only ones with a motive to restart the war are Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Okay, I see you are not able to comprehend basic mathematical concepts such as a margin of error for under-estimation.

    On the Israeli breach of the ceasefire, an Israeli bulldozer set off unexploded ordnance (dud US bombs) and Netanyahu realised he could use this as an excuse to slaughter more Palestinians. However the US are after telling Israel to fvck off because they know the explosion was caused by a bulldozer. Israelis are bloodsuckers, do they celebrate Halloween?

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