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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Caquas


    You think Heather was the spontaneous choice of the party members? Ah, bless!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭feelings


    You couldn’t be more mistaken in thinking that CC would “suck up” to the Catholic Church.

    She’s been consistently outspoken in her criticism of both the Church and the State for their roles in Ireland’s historical injustices - especially their complicity in the abuses that took place in the mother and baby homes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,803 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Chomh náireach 😕 Would this restriction happen in Belgium or Canada or Switzerland?

    TG4 & RnaG are restricted from broadcasting interviews with Connolly due to guidelines relating to equal time being available to candidates in the election because Humphreys is not fluent in the language.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,371 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    You think this is gonna sink Harris? Ah, bless!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Probably the lowest calibre debate of this election cycle, I doubt this one will change any minds.

    Heather Humphreys

    Probably a stronger performance from Humphreys, this debate is unlikely to impact how she is viewed by the electorate. She lacks the ability to communicate without frequent minor slip ups, and this reduces the effectiveness of any points she may or may not score in a clash. She weathered the government related blowback well, and more confidently defended her time as a minister. Her questioning regarding the recent budget did land some hits, and enabled Connolly to claim an easy victory on topics such as housing, and social provisions. Her strongest moment hinged on the questions surrounding Irish Unity, and she spelled out a clear policy on dealing with issues surrounding Immigration. She weakened substantially in her attempts to attack Connolly over Brexit, and the ‘Farage’ reference was weak, and delivered in desperate fashion, handing an easy win to her opponent.

    Catherine Connolly

    Clearly the best communicator, Connolly won easy points on housing, and attacking Humphreys for the mistakes of FFG in government. She also attacked the ‘Ireland-is-Full’ anti immigration campaign, by stating clearly that the anger being vented, is misdirected at immigrants. She then pivoted back to the housing crisis as being a precursor to these protests, landing yet another blow on the Government, and her opponent. Her weakest moment in the debate concerned her trip to Syria, which she continues to defend, despite there being much evidence of her interactions with bad actors and criminals. I would not accuse her of dishonesty RE not knowing the nature of said individuals, but it does show a lack of judgement on her part, in not being certain of who she was interacting with. Connolly side stepped the issue of Brexit well, despite Humphreys attacking her on this issue, and she emerged confidently at the end of the debate.

    Conclusion

    This subdued debate won’t change the outcome of the election, but I would have to give the win to Catherine Connolly again. Perhaps not by a wide margin and owing more to her opponent’s lack of skill, she emerged the stronger of the two candidates.

    I still think Humphreys has improved as these debates have rolled on; that said, I fear that any improvement on her part, is merely an attempt to re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic. Humphreys consistently fails to register enough points in one-on-one debates with Connolly. I don’t think she can win this campaign, and HH will be depending on some last minute catastrophe within the Connolly camp. If this remote possibility fails to materialize, then it’s over IMHO

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Even the most cursory Google search would show you CC has spent a huge portion of her term in the Dáil holding the state and church to account for religious abuse, mother and baby homes, and redress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    It might well do. Depends on the winning margin.



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    What led you to this particular peculiar belief?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    You may be diving to much into this Liam. People simply may just resonate more with Connolly than Humphreys because she relays their fears and views better than Humphreys appeased them. The hurler on the ditch syndrome plays a big part in this. Connolly simply is the voice of what people like to hear, not the reality of what has to be and is. Anti everything is a popular stance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I think both FF and FG will take a huge hit from this election. FF more so, for obvious reasons.

    My concern is that any blowback from this campaign cycle, will have subdued by the time we hit our next election in 2029. I view FFG's cost of living payments, and energy credits, as having been a bribe toward winning the last election. By the time we hit the 2029, we may see more of this type of policy, and the electorate may just move on from this debacle.

    In terms of FFG support, il be really curious to see where it lands in the next general election poll. The last such poll we had was 3 October, before Gavins meltdown, and Connolly's surge. That one was FF20, FG21, SF21, SD8, Lab4, so we are sure to see movement. Wouldnt be surprised if SF are well up, and perhaps Labour and the Soc Dems too.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,700 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I'm not sure a debate on RnaG or TG4 would warrant much of a difference but if they invited both candidates to an interview at different times that would surely be in keeping with the guidelines?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,803 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Connolly currently on RnaG discussing her campaign, no Humphreys though 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,371 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    One thing that will help them is that the other party in the big 3 couldn't even rustle up a candidate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,413 ✭✭✭corkie


    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,596 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I still don't understand how Humphreys was minister for Gaeltacht affairs for so long and still refuses to debate as Gaelige. It's such a poor look for a Presidential candidate. How did she communicate with those communities while minister?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭feelings


    I'm sure TG4 can facilitate both candidates by having the debate in both english and/or irish, which ever is preferred by the candidates. I believe they did it in 2011 for Higgins?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Look, I have no issue with those who speak the Irish language and those who want to speak the Irish language.

    I do have an issue with those who engage in cultural imperialism by promulgating the idea that the Irish language is synonymous with Irishness. It is not. It is only synonymous with an exclusive and exclusionary vision of what it means to be Irish.

    When people are suggesting that the President needs to be fluent in Irish, they are automatically excluding many many Irish people from the role, particularly those from minority communities such as Presbyterian, other Protestant, Jewish and Muslim cultures where the learning of Irish is not considered essential to be Irish. I find that type of jingoistic nationalism abhorrent.

    While there are many many Irish people speaking Irish in their daily lives, the evangelists for Irish tend to fall into the two categories I have mentioned. For different reasons, they are trying to exclude.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Goodman enda, hadn't seen that lad in a while. Jennings gave our heather a damn good early morning rattling earlier over the ofarrell case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,700 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Yes definitely. Although HH is putting her foot in it more often than not these days so maybe time away from the cameras would be no harm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    22% of fg supporters won’t vote for their candidate.enough said



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,596 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    For the record I think it's worse for the minister for gaeltacht affairs not to speak Irish than the President

    If I got that job I'd be learning the language



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    There's an interesting angle being pushed by Harris about Labour. He's trying the "what would the neighbours think?" angle with Labour supporters supposedly being horrified by Labour backing Connolly.

    Labour has always attracted politicians who couldn't get started in FF or FG. It gave them a career even though their sentiments might be more aligned with FF and FG than traditional Labour. The benefit of this angle would be to get some Labour TDs to defect. It is a bit desperate. It also takes the attention off his own troubles with having selected Humphreys.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    l believe Harris has lost serious credibility in recent times and is essentially a dead man walking. His utterances are less relevant by the day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It did look a bit desperate. However, if a few Labour TDs join FG, it will have been worth it. It will be interesting to see how long he remains leader otherwise.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The leader of the only government party in the race being so obviously kept away from the campaign because he would be toxic to it will only come into focus after the election.

    Sean Kelly indicated that FG's handling has questions to answer very frankly yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Harris is even claiming that Humphreys can still win (Indo). There is a potential upside for FG in getting rid of Harris. Replacing him with Carroll MacNeill would give FG the first female Taoiseach. Otherwise, it looks like MLMcD may eventually be the first female Taoiseach. Given FG's recent run of leaders, it would not be surprising to see it make McEntee the replacement for Harris. Losing McGuinness seems to have unravelled FG's plan to become a bigger party than FG once again.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Friday may very well do that, however it’s the Fridays into the future that have me somewhat concerned.

    When a persons support announce that nobody cares where they got their funding …alarm bells start to ring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She funded it herself with allowable expenses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Does a week go by without you predicting that one or other of Harris and Martin are about to be kicked out?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,887 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Aragh will you give up your oul sins. If you are really worried about "funding" ask yourself why that utter crook Lowry (FG) is still in the Dail after all his dodgy dealings as laid out in toothless tribunals. Ask yourself why FG have asked him to form a government with his track record of shady deals. And ask why the same Lowry tried to get Government and Opposition speaking rights to reduce the time the real Opposition got. Look a bit closer to home for waste, corruption and fraud.

    Then ask yourself why FG refused to pass the Public Standards Reform Bill of 2018 which successive FG governments have promised to deliver after numerous scandals/tribunals.

    It's Animal Farm BB...fine for those pigs at the trough.

    I won't even mention the runaway train that is Fine Gael's Children's Hospital or the Healy Raes!

    Alarm bells indeed...

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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