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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    From day one she’s steered clear from inconvenient truths - she’s banged out a narrow path of “justice” and “peace”- admiral qualities of course- but she is completely unrealistic in terms of the real world issues and how they will be solved - she’s living in a Pollyanna world and it appears many are quite happy to follow her there.

    Her “Hamas” comments were disgusting- she wants the very people who sent 10,000s of Palestinians to their death whilst they took cover in deep caves or even worse, lived the high life in other countries - to be part of the decision making process around the future of the country? Thats Stockholm syndrome on steroids .



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    There was never an agreement not to "expand" east anyway, but regardless, I do not think the Baltic states joining NATO in 2004 had anything whatsoever to do with Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 and 2022.

    One key way to know this, is to listen to Putin telling everyone that. He kept up the pretence it was about NATO to foreign audiences for a while, but has long since stopped bothering and his comments to domestic audiences always make it clear it is nothing more than a simple war of conquest. Connolly's points are not subtle, they are ignorant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    CC's views on this matter, and her views on other matters, are seemingly too subtle for those who want to see the world as 'black and white' and are ready at every opportunity to 'ponce' on anyone not following the regimented 'party line'. A form of thought police.

    The fear of people who don't toe the consensus line is rife, I agree.

    Echoes Connolly's own words 'If you put your head above the parapet, you'll be got'.
    Throughout her career she has bravely voiced an alternative view and it's a view that has appeal in this neutral country as it should.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    There's an argument in there that excuses Russian aggression because the were forced into it in that narrative. That is not the case if Russian borders aren't breached. Whether Ukraine joins Nato or not doesn't excuse any Russian aggression, and it should allow without question Ukraines right to defend itself and attack the enemy within and get the aid it needs to do so. That seems pretty black and white to me. Putting pink or red etc in there isn't subtle, it's supportive of the aggressor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,894 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    There's nothing "brave" about Connolly's view. At best naive, at worst, siding with an authoritarian dictator who kidnapped children and commits atrocities.

    The dichotomy presented between Israel and russia is a huge weak point for the purported left.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Ok so you've made it up that it's the majority view, thanks for clarifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    😂 if you think HH is working for the good of Ireland and not capitalist interests you’ve overdosed on Rte kool aid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    We live in a capitalist country, our economy depends on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,718 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Simon Harris's upcoming confidence vote can't have come at a worse time for Humphries and will likely affect the way some will vote in the upcoming presidential election. Those turncoat Labour and Green TDs are caught between a rock and a hard place. Will they vote against Harris but for Humphries?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭feelings




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭rock22


    "There's an argument in there that excuses Russian aggression because the were forced into it in that narrative. "

    You are proving my point. Unless I am 100% , Ifollowing the NATO/West line then I am making excuses for Russian aggression. That is not the case as i said "…hold the view that Putin invaded Ukraine and is the aggressor …"

    Yes the narrative has moved on. That is not a good reason to abandon any attempt at a negotiated settlement. At some stage there will be some negotiation, it is how most wars end. There is absolutely nothing wrong with arguing for that to begin as soon as possible. Making that argument, which is what Connolly has done, is not betraying Ukraine. Right now we are expected to be cheerleaders for NATO forces. When a peaceful negotiation is arrived at we will be expected to cheer on Trump as a great peace maker, just as we were expected to in Gaza.

    Personally, I find nothing wrong with CC's position on Ukraine and on Gaza. I accept that position is not enough for some.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Personally I would prefer a President of Ireland to be more cognisant of internal Irish matters than sticking her beak deeply into Middle East and Russian affairs.

    I would suggest 14 years is enough of that, in fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Again with the spin about the last 14 years.

    MDH has spoken far more about internal Irish matters than anything else. Consistently.

    Blame your own antenna here, which is only picking up on the content that shock horror challenges the consensus view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    I related my view, just as you did. I think you're wrong and I was actually relating it to Connolly as opposed to you or me, as neither of us are running for the presidency. If Connolly was speaking before the invasion there might have been sense in what she said at that stage, but as the situation changed with the invasion I feel she should have changed with it and backed Ukraine without hesitation after that.

    I wouldn't be 100% behind NATO on everything myself, but in this case as it has moved to Ukraine being invaded I would be 100% behind Ukraine and the statement in my first comment on their right to defence and aid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭pureza




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nothing, when it doesn't try to silence or bully other points of view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Here is what you said:

    I would prefer a President of Ireland to be more cognisant of internal Irish matters 

    You are oblivious to or brainwashed into thinking that he has not been cognisant of internal Irish matters. Go review what he has actually spoken on in his 14 years as President.

    'You put your head above the parapet you will be got' couldn't be more apt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “You put your head above the parapet you will be got' couldn't be more apt.”

    The persecution complex adopted by CC’s campaign is getting tiresome - she’s far from a martyr - she’s pushing a dangerous approach to Irelands role in world affairs no less protecting Ireland itself and she’s rightly being challenged on that time and time again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    That is not a good reason to abandon any attempt at a negotiated settlement.

    No one has abandoned it. That is just a complete and utter strawman argument. Connolly clearly hasn't the first clue about what is going on.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Nope, not anti-EU at all. She is just "full of admiration of the English people" post the Brexit vote and has declared that they "see the EU for what it really is".

    She is outraged that the Lisbon Treaty focused on freeing up markets (i.e. one of the core points of the EU) and is opposed to any pooled sovereignty (another core point of the EU). She is also outraged that people thought Brexit was bad and thinks it may well be good for Britain. Decrying the militarisation of the EU post-Lisbon is also particularly mad given the state of EU defence spending at the time, but she has a narrative that she constantly pushes no matter the reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭sdiff


    Anyone know if or when we can expect to see further polls released?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,593 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Jayus! Connolly needs to pushed more on this by the media. Especially given how Even SF and Ireland North and South were anti Brexit.

    Humphreys should be highlighting Connolly as pro Brexit and ask does she want Ireland to leave the EU? Also does Connolly still not believe in the EU free market and free movement of workers?

    I wonder what the migrants Eastern Europeans from Poland etc who have made Ireland their home would make of Connolly’s anti EU attitude?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    This is just affirmation of her desire for the EU to go in a different direction - away from the Right.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Free markets was the point of the EU back as far as when it was the European Coal & Steel Community. The disdain she has for the EU is dripping out of her comments.

    She doesn't want it to go in a different direction, she wants it to be a fundamentally different entity from what it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,889 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    She's praising Brexit, that's all needs to be said, to show her true colours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    All she says is there is an over emphasis on free markets and militarisation.

    The EU is not an old boys club, it is and, like it or not, going to be full of differing voices seeking to be heard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,593 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    From what I remember in the GE. It was only the “fringe” independents that wanted an IREXIT. That seems to be what Connolly would prefer albeit with a far left flavour.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not sure she is supporting Brexit, seems more like she's supporting the democracy of a referendum to me. She spends a great deal of her time in that video taking people who demeaned the 17m who voted, to task.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,905 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I'll be honest, I am getting bored of this election now. The same silly arguments are being done to death. Meanwhile the government are getting a free pass on all their failings.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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