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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I didn’t listen to that spoken part yet. But will comment on it in due course. You already muddied the water though saying “abolished or reformed”. Connolly wants it’s abolished. SF excepts it in “exceptional circumstances”.
    You mention AI and ICC.

    Sorry, I never can take them seriously always airey fairy, no practicality or accountability. They can just live in an idealistic world.

    Meanwhile the government of the day have to get on with hard choices. Amnesty International and ICC can make pronouncements without accountability. Constant “nicey nicey” stuff. I can’t take them seriously. If you are doing a dissertation looking for “radical soft touch” changes/ideas to law. Amnesty International or ICC are the first place you go.

    Personally I think the SCC has served the state well and is continuing to do so. The courts need somethjng with teeth to fight organised crime or subversives. Without putting Irish civilians in danger.

    I always think of this case if there was no SCC this type of thing would be liable to happen - see below

    https://m.independent.ie/regionals/herald/ratt-blitz-ordered-after-jury-list-found/27944391.html

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,279 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    It would have been interesting, but very unlikely, if Pat had asked if either candidate as President would give voice to the majority view that there is too much immigration



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    So you think “defence” was a priority for Ireland in 2009-2015?

    And yes I will bring the opposition into the mix - if they’re not shouting about defence being important for the last 16 years, there’s no point crying about it now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭casey jones


    No I dont think its relevant, you're the one who has an issue with him being a former member. What word would you chose to describe his status and how it somehow reflects on HH?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I think SF are a lot more happy to forget about Dowdall. Than Gardai the DPP or the Monk!

    If I was HH I would just have mentioned Dowdall’s surname and said “former SF councillor” in relation to the SCC. Easy points score. But HH is not a Dub it wouldn’t be on the forefront of her mind.

    Would love to see how CC would wriggle out of it. Dowdall is very fresh in most of the electorates mind. And it is gangland not just Republican.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Is it the majority view or just your algorithm view?

    I’m sure you’ll have evidence to back up your statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Connolly in the Dáil within a year of being elected to it.

    My question was on what steps the Minister was taking to reduce the number of persons in the Defence Forces in receipt of family income supplement.

    If the Minister tells me he is happy that our Army is dependent on family income supplement, we are in serious trouble. In previous questions, he has repeatedly said he is committed to increasing the expenditure on defence and he acknowledges there is a crisis, with more people leaving the services than going into them.

    I understand that approximately 580 leave every year so when I ask what steps he is taking, the Minister might say what the Government is doing to address the crisis in addition to what has been agreed with unions or representative bodies.

    It seems to have any amount of money to spend on a European basis but not on basic salaries to lift basic conditions in the forces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The biggest threat to people in this jurisdiction is the dissident community still hellbent on overthrowing this State. Anyone who lets a member anywhere near the Oireachtas is not fit to represent the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    CC said that Hamas was part of the fabric of Palestinian society and were the legitimate representatives of the people.

    Now they are executing their own people live on TV in cold blood on the streets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    were the legitimate representatives of the people.

    She did not say this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    But but ….they’re the fabric of Palestinian society- that along with their penchant for allowing domestic abuse of women - a right jolly bunch they are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    CC told us that the Palestinian people had every right to select them as their representatives and had done so in 2006. Lovely bunch of guys executing people in the street. I suppose it is the Palestinian form of "community policing" as was practiced by the good republicans in the North.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I listened to the full PK debate now. Thought it was HH strongest performance so far. Possibly because PK style of interviewing is more confrontational. Leading to HH being more fiery. She didn’t shirk questions. Even stayed firm when Pat said “what if, what if?” etc.

    CC - I sensed Pat became more and more frustrated with her as the interview went on. Not answering a direct question time and again. He even commented on it.
    And later dismissed her comments as reforming the UN as “a big days work”

    Best debate performance so far from HH.

    Real star of the show ? Pat Kenny!

    Edit - UN not NATO

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,909 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It wasn't NATO. It was the UN which is in badly need of reform or we will need to endure many more wars.

    Best performance by HH? I think they are all the exact same.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You'll be spending quite a bit of time in the world if you want to rid it of people who allow domestic abuse of women.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Pat Kenny aged 77 would have made a great President. He had more sense than to run though. Will be too old in 7 years.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭pureza


    You think a Protestant and a Fine Gael candidate would come out with such an attack? You must know little of either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Heather Humphries was her usual drab self, completely unconvincing on most things she was asked about, few flashes of life here and there.

    Catherine as usual was twice the speaker, loved the random question/answer on the 130 acres at the Aras, but I think she came across really poorly on the staff member, again.

    Her insistence on rehabilitation and no rules being broken is just an exceptionally poor strategy. You can believe someone is rehabilitated yet also acknowledge they are completely unsuited for very specific roles as a result of their crime.

    Pat did well enough on pushing that point - is she seriously contending there was no-one else in the country that could do the job and be a more appropriate pick.

    I think there is a very large degree of ego there in that she she cannot accept even the notion of the idea that it was simply a poor judgement call on her part no manner what way she dances around it.

    Thought Pat was actually very good. Right amount of firm and some decent laughs sprinkled in.

    Good hour of radio. Not particularly great for either candidate. Doubt many minds will have changed at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭spark_tank


    I agree that it was, unfortunately, Heather's best performance. But as always CC came across as far more presidential.

    There's so much stuff CC could bring up, like the past and convictions of other members who attend the Dail, HH's connections to the Orange Order and their disgraceful past. But that's not her game. She is a very, very genuine person.

    As for what Heather thinks of Donald Trump? "He could come out with anything" accompanied by that fake smile of hers. Insightful as ever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If Connolly is elected, I am not so sure that she will last seven years.

    A number of things could happen. If she is forced to back down on her positions on the US, Germany, Russia etc, she may walk away, claiming the Government is censoring her. If she continues on her merry away, insulting all and sundry, a constitutional crisis may emerge where the Government may rebuke her for remarks that upset an ally, or the Dail may start passing motions of censure, and again, she may resign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I don’t recall HH’s husband committing any past crimes?

    I also am unaware of any rehabilitation HH’s husband requires. Maybe for not loading the dishwasher? As a lot of men of a certain age are not great at that.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Trump had-or rather thought he has leverage with Putin and nobody else has ever persuaded the Ruzzians to even moderate their demands…if anything they have become even more uncompromising. The only people with any influence are the Chinese and they seem to be happy to see Ruzzia, Europe and the USA embroiled. Putin won't even talk to Zelensky. I fail to see any other way out of this except hurting Ruzzia so much that it will want a way out of the war.

    It is a grossly offensive posture to take towards those worried about their safety.

    I can guarantee she won't like the speech by Martin Fraser to the British-Irish parliamentary Assembly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    China are looking to make Russia and Iran vassal states that will supply them with raw materials for the rest of this century. They know that Russia and Iran will drain the West, weakening Europe and the US, while at the same time, destroy their own societies so that any post Ayatollah/post Putin regimes will only be able to turn to China.

    This is China's century.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    CC’s game is passive aggressiveness. If she went the other way she could no longer credibly go that route. Her tactic is Presidential sounding, calling for “mature debate” etc. But without answering any questions directly if at all possible, where it could get her into trouble.

    You are correct about the HH Trump comment. It was too loose. Then she realised it. Corrected her position and commended Trump for his efforts in Gaza.

    Then successfully fielded PK’s legitimate comment that Trump armed Israel. HH said the world is a complex place. And answered it well then. Quick on her feet.

    I thought HH line earlier of “don’t give a bank robber a job in a bank” re Ni Shionnain would play well with those who prefer analogy / imagery.

    Connolly does not deal in that style of debate, more intellectually idealistic.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “This is China's century.”

    Frightening but very true- they’re also not constrained by little matters like human rights or ethics or planet destruction - I can see kids from many countries in the not too distant future saying it would be a good idea if the whole world was governed by China .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    certainly….according to various members of Boards.ie posting on this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    What in the name of God has Dowdall or Sinn Fein got to do with Catherine Connolly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    yeah I was trying to figure out that one myself. bit of a leap



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You could see HH jump when the question was asked, the cogs turning as she tried to remember what she was coached to say.
    That is how bad she is as a communicator.



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