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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,847 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    The Nobel Prize for Economics was awarded to three academics, one of them Joel Mokyr, well known to Irish historians for some very interesting work in the Famine. Their Nobel Prize work was on the role of innovation in generating economic expansion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Priceless jewels from the Napoleon collection stolen from the Louvre.

    Comes after the crown jewels of Saxony were stolen some months ago in Germany.

    Do museums need to up their security? I understand there is a wish to be accessible to the public but it comes with the risk of this happening.

    Having everything in one place is risky. Dispersal might be better to frustrate theft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    <<Having everything in one place is risky. Dispersal might be better to frustrate theft.>>

    @Ozymandius2011 The very opposite IMO. It will be a big set-back for the planned decentralisation; France has been trying to remove mass tourism away from Paris and into les Provinces to better manage numbers, spreading them out a bit to improve economics and make numbers more manageable. The Mona Lisa now has its own salon and a separate entrance. The Pompidou, currently under refurb, has sent its 'artworks' to locations such as the Centre Pompidou-Metz, the Grand Palais in Paris, and temporary exhibitions in other cities like Shanghai, Amsterdam, and Lille. Additionally, the Centre Pompidou is establishing a new exhibition and research center in Massy, which will open in the late 2020s.

    According to M. le Ministre, <<It was “manifestly a team that had done scouting”, he said, adding that the panes were cut “with a disc cutter”.>>

    Duh! Who would do a heist like that without scoping the joint and planning? Lidl had disc-cutters on the centre aisle last week!

    clouseau.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Mass grave linked to 1798 found in Naas. Seems they were executed rebels. 100 men and boys buried there.

    Following the failed attack on Naas Jail in 1798, dozens of rebels were reportedly captured and then “disappeared”.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,847 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    For anyone interested in Roman items:



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,456 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    not ideal that he dug them up himself!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,456 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    because he's not an archaeologist. a find of a hoard of 15,000 coins should surely merit a proper archaeological dig to record (and possibly preserve) infomation that he may not have had the training to deal with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    2 of those who stole some of the French Crown jewels have been apprehended, but the jewels have not been recovered. They did drop Empress Eugenies' tiara which was recovered in a broken condition. Still missing are: An emerald-and-diamond necklace and pair of emerald earrings from a set given by Napoleon I to his second wife Empress Marie‑Louise;a tiara, necklace and one earring from the sapphire set formerly belonging to Queen Marie‑Amélie (wife of King Louis Philippe) and Queen Hortense (wife of King Jerome Bonaparte of Holland, and mother of Napoleon III). In all about 4-9 pieces were stolen. Increasingly looks like it was an inside job, which was also the case with the theft from the British museum some months ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    I agree but aren't there regulations in the UK regarding these finds, they are supposed to mark the exact position, and also to report any finds to the British Museum so that the professionals can investigate if deemed necessary. He hasn't kept it a secret.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 28,257 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I haven't seen the regulations, but if there are any regulations I'd be astonished if they didn't say "don't disturb the site".



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,456 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's probably a safe bet that if he had stopped the moment he knew he'd found coins, and reported it before digging them out, that the site would have been excavated in a totally different manner to how he proceeded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,438 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Academic wins payout for portrayal in film about the discovery of the body of Richard III

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdegzx9w16ro

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    "Fedora man" hanging around outside the Louvre on the day of the burglary revealed to be a 15 year old fan of Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot. His photo has 5 million views on Tiktok now.

    Pedro Elias Garzon Delvaux, a 15-year-old from Rambouillet, south-west of Paris told the Associated Press (AP) news agency that he had planned to visit the Louvre with his family but found the museum was closed.

    "We didn't know there was a heist," he said.

    As he asked officers about the closure, an AP photographer seeking to capture the security cordon took a picture and included Pedro in the frame.

    Pedro only realised the photo had gone viral four days later, when a friend sent him a screenshot asking: "Is that you?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    Zut alors, même la Beeb. Quelle bêtise, le PDG doit être viré! (Heureusement, ce n’est pas Trump, sinon un procès de milliards s’ensuivrait!!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    Thank you Google Translate!! 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Hall where Western Roman Emperor Valentinian I probably died during meeting with envoys of the Germanic Quadi tribe found in Hungary. Ammianus Marcellinus says he died during an angry exchange with the envoys, which caused a blood vessel in his brain to burst.



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