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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭gifted


    Wonder has RTE had a phone call yet to put CC under serious pressure in these debates? Very hard to refuse those who pay your wages.

    Mod: warned for trolling

    Post edited by Seth Brundle on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭corkie


    @jmcc It is almost as if Humphreys was the FG candidate to compete with Gavin rather than Connolly with FG having written off Connolly too early.

    Am I remembering incorrectly wasn't Humphreys (2nd Sept) declared before Gavin (9th Sept) was?

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,134 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Stupid comment.

    Their wages come from commercial advertising, and from the exchequer, just like the other 300,000 public servants.

    If David McCullagh (or Áine Lawlor, or Katie Hannon, or Cormac Ó'Eadhra) ever received an instruction like that, in a million years, he would pick up his bag, walk out of Montrose and never look back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Your really assuming that people are invested in this election. I'd say most are only vaguely aware of the campaign and many are completely uninterested in it.

    Connolly's momentum is largely down to apathy and no one really caring about Heather.

    Those voting for Connolly will go out and vote.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmcc


    I think that Humphreys was the replacement for McGuinness as early as August, Corkie. The formal nominations took place later. Sean Kelly had wanted to run but FGHQ was much better on putting Humphreys forward as the FG nominee than FF was with Gavin.

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,134 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    To jmcc and anyone else,

    I can tell you as a FG member and canvasser, there is absolutely no panic here about polling or anything else.

    As far as we're concerned, when you strip out all the noise and ephemera, its Humphreys 51%, Connolly 49%, and thats before the undecideds are apportioned, and frankly we'd expect to get those 2:1 in Humphreys favour.

    And so I'm confident Heather Humphreys will be the next president of Ireland by something like 60:40, or greater.



  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Only 43.9% of the electorate voted in 2018. That was apathy. It will be interesting to see if the turnout is lower in this election. What makes it different is that Connolly is a strong anti-FFG and anti-establishment candidate. It all comes down to turnout. With FF out of the race and the polling showing Connolly as leader, voter apathy might affect the Humphreys campaign because of the perception that Connolly is unbeatable. The majority of the electorate didn't even bother voting last time.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,845 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    So they reckon HH is going to grow her vote by 36% and take 2 to every one undecided's, in 2 weeks?

    Is this just a gaggle of leaflet distributors standing around having a chat or is it based on something concrete?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,973 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Oh I haven't lost any, thanks for your concern though. The NPP and the likes of you have though. The current recipient is an odios person - she has championed Israel's slaughter in Gaza - peace my a@se!! The NPP was given to the butcher of Cambodia (and elsewhere), Henry Kissinger, FFS - as Christopher Hitchen's once said - “Henry Kissinger should have the door shut in his face by every decent person and should be shamed, ostracised, and excluded.” You're in very good company ilk!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,767 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Jesus man I hope you're right. I was quite disillusioned the way the polls were looking to the point I thought I wouldn't even bother wasting my time going out voting for Humphreys. But I will now based on your post.

    I noticed RTE have been pushing Connolly. On Prime Time they had two 'experts' on both giving Connolly the most favorable review, one even commenting on 'how well she spoke'.

    Here they are using the 'you'd want to be on the winning side' technique. Let us make up your mind for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,966 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    As a poster who has slammed CC in the main but has reservations of seen HH even getting sight of the finish line while CC collects her prize, (in other words I’m not by any stretch a CC supporter but I am a realist also)-I don’t know what to make of this post.

    Where is your rationale that HH will romp home 60:40?
    I would admit that CC’s final lead will be less than what polls indicate right now -but 60:40 to HH is just madness. CC’s lead is massive relatively speaking - HH’s transfers “guarantees” have essentially collapsed - the people most likely to stay away are FF supporters - HH needs these to win. SF young supporters will be out in their droves for this along with much of the left .

    Much as I have no love for CC, I couldn’t possibly agree with your assessment - if HH does end up winning, assuming a massive conversion from the “don’t knows”- it will still be by a few % points at most



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Apparently Brendan Howlin and Willie Penrose were out canvassing with HH last week. I’m surprised more hasn’t been made of this by the media, who seem more interested in Connolly’s abilities at keeper-uppie.

    FG’s campaign has been extremely lacklustre (they are always terrible at election campaigns) but if they had any sense they would be hammering the message for the next 2 weeks that CC is anti-EU. In doing so they would help to consolidate centrist voters behind her and also peel away some Labour and Soc Dem supporters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It was, no FF candidate, no FG candidate and a go nowhere SF candidate. And a largely well liked president. and considered an "unbeatable" candidate who had the support of both FF and FG.

    Connolly maybe a strong anti-FG and anti-est candidate for the left. Heather's problem is her voter base aren't all that pushed and from the centre and the right she has anti-establishment people who won't vote for her, along with many old time FFer who will never vote for an FGer.

    I suspect the majority of the electorate aren't invested in this election and a high proportion won't go to vote lower than 2018! I think they will be lucky to reach 40% turnout.

    But everything could change in the next 2 weeks… highly unlikely.

    Someone will be eating their hat with these predictions.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,845 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    they would be hammering the message for the next 2 weeks that CC is anti-EU.

    Would go the same way as the pro-Putin nonsense, Connolly would just calmly explain what her actual position was and blow HH out of the water.
    FG should largely forget about CC and try to market HH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,966 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “There's another debate on RTE Radio 1 at 13:00 with David McCullagh.”

    I’ll take a listen thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,095 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    HH should never have agreed to so many debates. She loses all of them.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,966 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “but if they had any sense they would be hammering the message for the next 2 weeks that CC is anti-EU.”

    In fairness that’s the one point I have heard been made about HH-ie pro EU- maybe it needs to become an election slogan or something - and better to campaign on a positive (pro EU) than a negative (CC anti EU)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    Her ‘actual position’ is to oppose pretty much everything the EU does. She is much more critical of the EU, NATO and our traditional western allies than she is of Putin, Assad and every other left wing or ‘anticolonial’ dictator. She is, to use the old fashioned term, a classic tankie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    HHs campaign just seems so lazy. No effort put in. I got her flyer through the door and it was just all vague happy clappy cliches, nothing original or personal to her.

    'A President for All'

    Do me a favour.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,845 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Problem is, she is a committed European and supporter of the EU project (her words) but like many, worried and wary of the direction of travel.

    And that is how she will field those questions, and she will be better at fleshing out those thoughts than HH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,966 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    ”Lazy” is not a bad description. I’d be in agreement with that - that and some sort of entitlement to the position like what we might have seen in the 70s 80s or something -CC turns me off in so many ways but I don’t “warm” to HH either - I’m voting least worst but they’re both appalling candidates



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,845 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I see HH on Twitter heading into RTE for an interview on News At One, I presume both are doing it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Your analysis may be based on unsound data. Wait until the Irish Times publishes its poll closer to the election date.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,879 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I think it shows a contrast with the more radical leadership Labour now has



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,868 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    durty stuff from Heather: "he (paul murphy) locked joan burton in her caaar"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    They got more seats and had a higher fpv than FG.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Heather going on all out attack against CC in the debate - accusing her of all sorts (an obvious pre-arranged plan from her handlers).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭BQQ


    Sticking with plan A

    It’s almost like she wants to lose



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,879 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I agree with HH on Radio 1 now about CCs alignment with Mick Wallace and Clare Daly.



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