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Budget 2025 (or is it 2026 )

  • 07-10-2025 07:02AM
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    Would I be right in saying that there is absolutely nothing in today's upcoming budget for working people earning above the minimum wage?

    I can't find anything.

    There are welfare increases, which I'm not against.

    There are investments in this that and the other, again which I'm not against.

    But I can't see anything that will put more money in a wage earners pocket.

    Or am I missing something?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    The dole going up a tenner is laughable, are we not at at 0% effective unemployment and importing workers? Any attempt to get the sizeable long term unemployed off the scratcher?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,702 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Shows you how spineless they are. Imagine rte and their interrogation " welfare not increasing " but the rich working people on 30k a year, being e520 better off, due to a tax cut... pathetic country... what we now have for working people is an increase in taxation, due to inflation and the thevredusal to adjust the bands to match inflation...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,598 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    You're not missing anything, there's no changes to tax bands, credits or rates expected.

    And it's Budget 2026.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,943 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Budgets are so boring now. They are all leaked beforehand.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,598 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    They actually kept this one fairly quiet for the most part, up until yesterday. We were only saying in work on Friday that in previous years we'd have had our client Budget briefings mostly written by that stage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,099 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The optics of giving workers a defacto income cut whilst giving the long term unemployed a €10 weekly income boost at a time when businesses are struggling to find staff is going to leave a particularly sour taste this time. Sends a really messed up message out.

    It's the fact they will still spend at least €10bn more next year that should alarm everyone. That is a dangerous increase in the rate of spending. They've been repeatedly warned about this.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The increase in the minimum wage will just drive up costs and thus prices in the hospitality sector, which is already very expensive.

    I don't mind the €10 dole increase, it's not going to suddenly stop people from working and jumping on the dole, and as it is welfare recipients tend to spend most of their welfare anyway so it's going back in to the economy.

    But the fact that the middle folks are getting nothing just shows you that it's the first budget after an election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Another joke of a budget by these gangsters with not a single fresh idea but I bet these pigs will give themselves a pat on the back and another big bonus on top of there big salary not long after it just you wait and see. I sware if they do I will be outside Leinster House protesting for them to be gone. Who is with me?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you are that wound up why aren't you out protesting now, instead of waiting for them to give themselves a big bonus (which won't actually happen by the way) ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,757 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    It's roughly what I expected from a budget made by FF and FG. The last 2 years were what some might refer to as "election budgets" ie buying votes. This year the real winners are the business owners who will see a reduction in the VAT they have to charge the public subsidy for their profits

    I hope it's a lesson learned for anybody who voted for them last year, believing the energy credits and student fee reductions and increases in tax bands were going to be perpetual.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,170 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Because I have a busy and complicated life but if there is an organised protest I will be there.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,625 ✭✭✭fliball123


    This government is oblivious to the people who live in the country. I have a feeling that this will be the 2nd nail in the coffin for FF after the Jim Gavin incident. This budget really needed to give workers a lift. Any argument made for the hospitality sector could be made for people working here by way of paying USC - a supposedly temporary tax created when the country was on its knees - this is no longer the case.

    Also the case for one off payments was due to Ukraine War/Electricity price spiraling and yet electricity prices have just gone up again recently and the Ukraine war is no where near being finished. I find it infuriating at the level of inconsistency when they can give a compelling reason for one off payments in the last 2 budgets and yet the same factors are still in play but now they seem it unnecessary to give the same payments. Then throw in the lying from this government and disillusionment with politics in general as we have no good options when voting time comes and the people who vote for the likes of FF/FG are done so after being lied to over certain metrics that were inflated last year, for example housing figures and of course there can be no repercussions as the phuckers have power for the foreseeable and can force a sh1tcan of a budget down the neck of the general public. There needs to be a serious change to how politics works in this country. IMO anyone who feels neither of the candidates up for election of the presidency in no way shape or form represent them then vote for Jim Gavin he is no longer running and its a protest vote and before I get the "that is disgraceful spoiling your vote" argument the fact is the idea of having a president who can do SFA and is powerless and is just an extra cost to the tax payer is exactly the right space to spell out to all parties and politicians that our political system/structure is not working. We also need a "none of the above" option going forward for elections as FF/FG will state they have a mandate from being democratically elected when in fact when you take the people who like me had no one who I felt represented me at the polling station back at the start of the year and choose not to vote. We have no voice and the fact is the majority of people in this country did not vote for FF/FG.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,757 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    They have been saying for months now that the one-off measures need to end, and they are largely correct. They need to be replaced by more sustainable methods of protecting the people, however and not just simply stopped outright.

    I'd expect to hear one or more plans for a 0% VAT rate for utilities, the re-nationalising of the sector or a price cap to be imposed on the sector, if indeed they were serious about protecting the population

    I don't, however, believe that they are serious about protecting anybody other than big businesses, property developers and bankers but I would not mind being proven wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Timistry


    That is exactly it, they reduce the VAT rate for the sector to prevent future closures (which is nonsense by the way) and then on the other hand increase the cost of wages for these businesses. No joined up thinking.

    The rising tide lifts all boats, increase the min, wage,. everything goes up.

    Ireland is a welfare stage, the most generous in Europe and possibly the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭corkie


    I hope people went out to day (or before) to stock up on the old reliable targets, cigs, petrol etc.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,702 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    No adjustments to the tax bands, has this ever happened before, when the country hasnt been up **** creek ? I doubt it... man I hope things go bust again…

    I also think it's very clear, that we vote for alternatives, to bring the **** crashing down if needs be, because politics in Ireland is both rotten and inept, to the core...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭corkie


    Cigs up 50 cent, thought they might have done the same as last year and increased by euro, even with the leak of the amount. Pro rata on other tobacco products. No mention of bringing vape levies forward from November.

    No increase mention for petrol, but carbon tax levy increase.

    Edit: -

    The Ireland Budget 2026 includes an increase in the carbon tax on petrol, which will raise prices by about 2.5 cent per litre starting from midnight on Budget Day. This tax is part of the government's strategy to support climate targets and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,655 ✭✭✭baldbear


    The man delivering the budget who just ended his chances of been FF leader delivering a shocking budget for working people.

    Builders looked after along with hospitality.

    The VAT cut for the builders particularly sickens me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,702 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Increase gambling taxes, levy on disposable cups, 20c minimum... their as good as free more motor tax on new cars is another farce...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,702 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    All cheaper up north, all the time...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,657 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    I was paying €1.35 for a litre of diesel 3 weeks ago in Bilbao. The Spanish govt subsidise their energy costs over there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Everyone knew this was going to happen, last budget was a giveaway one that coincidentally was just before the GE, double payments paid literally the week before.

    Anyone who fell for that cheap trick and voted for them really need to read a few books.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭istabrac77


    YMakes sense as there is excess oil in Spain (Repsol)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,099 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Take this in from the official 2026 budget publication today

    A general government surplus of €10.2 billion (3.0 per cent of GNI*) is anticipated for this year. When ‘excess’ corporation taxation receipts (estimated at c. €17½ billion) are excluded from the headline balance, the underlying balance is in deficit, projected at €7.4 billion (2.2 per cent of GNI*).

    In 2026 a general government surplus of €5.1 billion (1.4 per cent of GNI*) is projected. Excluding ‘excess’ corporation tax receipts, an underlying deficit of €13.6 billion (3.8 per cent of GNI*) is expected.

    2007 all over again and throwing money around like confetti. Instead of housing it's corporation tax.

    Of course we now have the opposition on their feet telling us how they'd spend even more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    RTE One showed all of Paschal Donohue’s speech, all of Jack Chambers speech, and then cut Pearse Doherty (and remaining opposition speakers) off after 7 mins to go to a panel discussion where they have 2 government TDs and 1 opposition.


    It stinks - particularly given the budget seems pretty lousy for your average citizen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Allinall


    So… If you exclude some of the tax receipts, we won't take in as much tax.

    What genius is getting paid to come up with that rubbish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,099 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    €17.5bn of corporation tax receipts are windfall receipts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Allinall




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    2007 all over again and throwing money around like confetti. Instead of housing it's corporation tax.

    But they are not throwing money around like confetti.

    The opposite.

    There are no changes to the income tax bands, thresholds etc.



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