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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Read the rules of what you have to do and be to join the orange order

    The rules are the same for someone in East Belfast, Carrickfergus or Monaghan

    Ita a sectraian organisation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,511 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I suppose you have the same issue then with the 'former' Eirigi member CC attempted to employ?

    I say 'former' because someone who attends the Ard Fheis of said organization in the same month she is employed by CC doesn't seem to be former/reformed anything, tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    One more drop out and we won’t even have to vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,285 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    "voting" for somebody doesn't have to mean a no.1 vote.

    In a 3 horse race you could "vote" for a candidate by giving them a 3. That 3 can never be counted, but it's still a "vote" for them.

    so did 22% of people polled explicitly say they'd give a no.1 vote to Steen? That is entirely implausible.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Tiger20


    What happens to the ballot paper if you vote Gavin No 1 and HH No 2, does the No 2 count as a 1 for HH? I can understand a Gavin No 1 on its own being invalid, but imagine if HH got 5000 no 2 from him and being 4000 behind CC, what happens then?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    The fact that her beliefs are thought out and expressed calmly still doesn't stop some of them being batsh1t crazy. By many accounts the late Charlie Kirk expressed himself calmly and forwent the usual MAGA histrionics but his views were still ugly, abhorrent and barking mad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN



    OK- so let’s just assume for one moment that boards is a microcosm of Republic of Ireland - it’s not by any means but let’s pretend for a second.

    JG was easy pickings- an all so ran for starters- terrible presentation style (although I liked his suit and tie 😀) - he got one chance to answer properly and he blew it - in other words he didn’t have a die hard supporters club really to begin with and no one was going to defend the indefensible - that’s not to say some people still won’t vote him #1- they will. Any support from boards post resignation? A couple of posters have said he shouldn’t have resigned but in the main I think it’s accepted that he should go.

    You mention CC- a totally different kettle as we’ve seen here on the thread - has supporters who see no wrong in her - reminds me a bit like MAGA supporters in a way - fanatical. They have defended to the hilt what CC did in terms of that ex prisoner - do I agree? To be honest I’m not paying too much attention as I was never going to vote CC anyway so they can say and do what they like. I certainly won’t defend her and overall I think her dealings and views are shady to say the least- not my cup of tea- thanks.

    So to your question -Is it a double standard?
    CC’s very existence in politics has been controversial - she appeals to far left very much so and left of centre to a lesser degree as we’ve seen with Labour - she knows this group have her back - so she won’t resign and anyway, she firmly believes she’s right and has done little wrong -and no one of note is calling for her to step down.

    So no, I don’t see a double standard here per se- I see someone who has obviously made a financial mistake that isn’t in keeping with being a president so he had to go - on the other side I see a whole political way of thinking and acting - I don’t think the two are comparable.

    But- what I have said many times (before JG’s retirement from the race)- is that CC will find it difficult to gain additional voters outside of her core current support - she’s too entrenched in the left- and that in itself, is probably the public making their minds up.

    But you have to remember one thing- not paying back a tenant 3k is seen as just wrong by all - both left and right - to really understand what CC has said or done or didn’t do, you really have to listen hard and read up on it - I don’t think a lot of the people electorate has that patience if I’m perfectly honest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    I think I will put Ann Other under the others, draw a box and put my 1 in that box and no number 2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭corkie


    @magicbastarder a month ago, if you'd asked 100 members of the public 'can you explain what a maria steen is?' i wonder if 22% would have been able to answer.

    When I first saw the name on forums. I thought incorrectly it was an inside joke or something. 'Ave' Maria Stain!

    Sorry for delayed reply to it, only now after catching up with this thread!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,521 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    'batshit'edness is in the ear and eyes of the beholder.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,511 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Oh we are in agreement on Gavin's non payment of the 3k, and I dont honestly understand where Gavin was getting votes anyways outside of Dublin GAA fans and core FF voters. I just see Connolly's... Let's call them indiscretions rather than getting into the bones of it as equally egregious tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Is it more sectarian than the Catholic Church or Opus Dei? Years ago Catholics were not supposed to go in to a Protestant church (say for a funeral of someone they knew) just as OO members were not supposed to go in to a Catholic church. Its more relaxed now. That is if he was a member of the OO ? Maybe he was just a member of a Masonic lodge, some people get confused between the 2. There are some catholics, jews, muslims etc in masonic lodges : they just require a belief in a supreme being or something.

    Anyway, Heather H is not her husband's keeper nor answerable for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Yes the Catholic Church should have been banned many many years ago. What they done to women and children in this country imo is a lot worse than the UVF PIRA etc ever done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭aero2k


    I'm open to correction, but I think a case can be made for adding the HSE hack to that list?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭aero2k




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,251 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    When is the next debate or joint interview?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Most likely originated in Russia. So basically it's not known



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭liamtech


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    I just have to commend WWN for their coverage so far- epic

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I'm sure the spy complex on Orwell Road is well aware of our peaceful voice, but I doubt they pay the slightest attention to it…except for the odd private chuckle and public sour smear. I'm not sure Netanyahoo gives a fig either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,842 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Years ago Catholics were not supposed to go in to a Protestant church (say for a funeral of someone they knew)

    Yes if this presidential election was taking place under the old dispensation Heather Humphries would be the only prominent person around it entitled to attend the funeral of the late Martin Mansergh…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    The problem isn't belonging to a sectarian organisation. You can belong to whatever sectarian organisation you want (Catholic, Islamic, etc.), just as long as your loyalty is to the Irish state. The problem is that an Orange Order member takes an oath to a foreign head of state. This is unacceptable for an Irish head of state.

    I think Humphreys husband should explain where his loyalty lies. If his loyalty is to the Irish state first, then I have no objection to his wife being president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,652 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Legal experts are saying there is a serious risk the result will be challenged in the courts, matter what the outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    This happened in the Louth general election, when the FG candidate pulled out last minute due to issues with undeclared properties (can't remember the exact reason)

    She was still on the ballot and actually got over 100 votes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Jim should have listened to Bertie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,842 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Let’s drop it down to TD level for a second - have you spent much time analysing far left candidates?

    I haven’t - I see their antics documented from time to time and the protests and the shouting and what not - but I haven’t spent much time reflecting on it and I’ve never voted far left- what CC is doing or has done, is in the realm of what her fellow TDs do and say - Russian associations and all - like I said, I don’t go there vote wise ever, so I don’t really get worked up about it - just don’t criticise CC’s hair - I did but I think i got away with it 🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    ….as any MAGA rally in the American heartland will tell us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    This is very true - and making such a comment is probably directly related to just how far away one’s view is to the person or people it’s directed at



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,723 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I think there was other stuff coming down the line against Gavin. In old days if the problem was just a 3.300 euro thing a FF fixer would have just been sent out with an open Cheque Book or even cash to buy the complainant off. '' Would you take 50K to keep your mouth shut? ''



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