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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,669 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Connolly is clearly picking up non left wing support. People were assuming pre-campaign that this wouldn't happen, but her appeal seems to be going outside SF-Lab-SDs etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Not when a lot of people rightly or wrongly, think that the media want HH or JG to win and are just attacking CC over anything and everything

    RTE website dosnt even mention JG and his rental issues,which are a serious thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I have read the thread and commented on it quite a bit. I made no comment in that post on the debate so no idea what that's about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,147 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I will have a listen to that, Yates always seems to have his finger on the pulse in these election races. In fairness to him.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,669 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    100% : MM has effed up royally here. If Steen was in the race as well, Gavin would probably be in single figures in the Sunday Indo poll.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,202 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,534 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yes. Surprised by that poll if I’m honest. Even without the Connolly story I thought it would be closer with HH.

    Never thought Gavin would get close tbh- chancer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Intersting that you are so touchy about a few posts in the last few hours, there's been a deluge of disingenuous nonsense posted here about CC from people who are incapable of applying any sort of objectivity to political discourse and instead are driven by bias and in some cases hate. It is that which I suspect posters are replying to, no one has stopped you asking a question!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,202 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    He is actually a political science lecturer in DCU, or at least he was in my day. Interesting to hear his analysis

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,669 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Connolly had an excellent debate the other evening (and the other two didn't). That type of performance is likely to pick up support from outside her traditional base.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭almostover


    Very interesting poll results in the Sindo. Seems like its going to be a close 2 horse race between CC and HH. With CC being slightly out in front.

    Gavin is brown bread, especially with this story of him not refunding overpaid rent.

    A lot of this hinges on turnout, if a younger more urban turnout transpires then CC may sneak this.

    If it's a more traditional rural vote then HH may fall over the line

    Interestingly PPs odds tonight seems to reflect the polls with HH and CC now very close, and CC for the first time a nose in front.

    CC: 5/6

    HH: 5/4

    JG: 10/1.

    Personally I'm perplexed how some serious issues with respect to international relations and her radical leftism have resulted in CC being the slight favourite now. But perhaps I don't view those issues the same way as other members of the electorate. If CC is elected I just hope she moderates some of her rhetoric and goes down a more Robinson or Higgins type path.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,202 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I hope you are not referring to me there . What are you saying ? You seem to be getting very personal with a lot of people and not just today .

    Can you discuss the election and candidates at all and not individual posters ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭MFPM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,874 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I forgot how bad that was. The tweet wasn't real, wasn't it? Either way, Gallagher snookered himself twice. First by saying "I do not recall" and secondly by mentioning an envelope. Brought himself down. No political sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Did I mention you? If you've evidence I've been 'personal' at all, I'll happily look at it. I've discussed the election in quite a lot of detail over several months at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,874 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Quite surprised with the poll results, I figured Gavin would be last but thought Humphreys would be leading.

    30% undecided is a lot, and I do wonder if Connolly is doing much to attract undecideds over to her. But she's in great spot now and should be in very good form for tomorrow's debate..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,147 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    The audience gasp at the word "ENVELOPE" was hilarious. I think the tweet wasn't real alright.

    I don't think of that the 2025 three amigos will use the word 'envelope', bad and all as they are.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭liamtech


    So regarding the polls, nothing is entirely unexpected. For what its worth, he is my analysis

    Jim Gavin: I said it earlier as did others. His campaign has crashed. Even leaving aside the near impossibility of winning, he will likely be eliminated first. Only a 'Moon shot' could save his candidacy. If he can get connection with one serious topic, at the expense of the other two candidates, he could gain some support. Frankly I do not see this happening, he lacks experience, and his ability to communicate is terrible. IMHO, unless one, or both, of the other candidates trip up substantially, Jim Gavin is finished.

    Heather Humphreys: Still in contention, needs to both attack CC, and try and appeal to Gavin voters for their second prefs. Its doable, but requires HH to make her presence felt tomorrow. The tactic could involve going after CC, for the multitude of unforced errors, questioning her ability for the role. Its all fairly obvious, but coming to Gavin's defense might be needed. Ironically, she needs him to poll a bit better too, as well as gaining the support and sympathy of his 1st Prefs. She will likely be second on a first count, but if she can narrow the gap, she can still win on transfers.

    Catherine Connolly: Winning is well within her grasp, but she needs to defuse the minefield that she herself has created. Positively staying away from future contentious issues, she should also direct her fire toward HH, and away from Gavin. She also needs to reframe the debate to hoover up a lions share of undecideds. She can do so by pivoting her campaign towards more unifying topics, of domestic concern. This could be a HUGE vote winner this week, considering the budget. She is facing two FFG candidates, at a time when they are about to deliver a harsh budget, removing both energy credits and one off payments. By focusing on domestic issues, she can capture some of the upcoming disaffection, and deny gains to her opponents.

    Overall

    Many of us saw this poll coming a mile away, and are probably not surprised. Its now a two horse race in my view. Im sure Gavin supporters will find this difficult to swallow; if it were a better candidate we were talking about, I could see their point. Perhaps enough time remains, and its early days etc. But Gavin is horrendously ill-equipped to make any inroads. Even with my outlined tactics of CC and HH going after each other, and giving Gavin a pass - it will be purely self interest on their parts, and IMHO, he wont be able to capitalize. He truly lacks the ability to do so.

    As to CC v HH: My gut feeling is that CC has the momentum, or at least, appeared to have it, during the time-period in which this poll was taken. Getting some more polling, since the vetting story this week, will be crucial. Tomorrows debate will be massive for Humphreys and I could see her getting into the mud with CC over foreign policy. But she needs to avoid any trip ups, and have herself prepared to challenge CC on the main talking points.

    It will be very interesting to watch - and i look forward to it!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,202 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Let's not .

    Much more interesting stuff going on as post above by @liamtech .

    Hopefully things become clearer tomorrow after TWIP debate because I want to be able to vote for her .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Micheal Martin will surely be facing into a crisis given he backed Jim Gavin and it wasn't very popular with the grassroots or even particularly within the parliamentary party.

    If he'd given Kelleher the go-ahead he'd probably be sailing ahead at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,202 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Or at least a more level playing field ( GAA pun not intended !)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,534 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    He could have for him and FF and Gavin a revolt or heavy internal criticism to deal with before the campaign ends



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Not to mention it now seems he has giving into FG over the Vat cut to McDonalds, Supermacs and the lads, against the wishes of his party



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,534 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Budget is going to favour Connolly and neither of her chasers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,852 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    30% undecided shows that the next two weeks are hugely important for the election.

    The poll being conducted by text gives it an additional health warning over more robust methodologies.

    Budget next week likely to be a negative for HH and JG (whether rational or not, they’ll bear the brunt of any backlash).

    Timing of polling means impact or non-impact of CC’s dissident gun-toting assistant hasn’t been captured either.

    Will make for an entertaining fortnight ahead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭jmcc


    She appeared presidential. The others didn't. It is that simple.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,669 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Should be noted that the poll was conducted on Thursday and Friday, both days when the Eirigi aide story was in the news. Looks like it is hardly cutting through with Connolly's support at all (despite all the outraged individuals on social media claiming it was a game changer).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,146 ✭✭✭corkie


    I not by this post telling anyone how they should be posting or where.

    But for tomorrows debate, It would be good to discuss the actual debate in one thread than have posts across two?

    RTE:TWIP Presidential Debate 2025 ~ Sunday 5th Oct NOON | Repeat at night or player. in Current Affairs/IMHO

    ^ Above thread created for the purpose. And it's on at not a great time for myself. But I will be tuning in and on the site during some of that time.

    Some may think I am nutcase for my voting stance, but nobody can claim, I'm not invest/interested in the proceedings?

    Aras25 | "The people who spoiled their votes on Friday 24th Oct took part in a legitimate political action, as is their right!"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,604 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Has anyone the dates of when the actual poll was taken. That could be important in the light of the different stories braking.



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