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  • #32
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123874618#Comment_123874618

    They looked after all the grant application work as well. I'll fire them off a message and ask them can they send me a copy

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #33
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    It's was a proper reputable company and all above board so hopefully they just forgot to send me a copy

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #34
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    looks like those spds are fed off an rcbo

    "Direct to busbar" or mcb( usually b32) are the methods normally used depending on model

    If whatever else is connected trips it , the spds are no longer functioning



  • #35
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123874819#Comment_123874819

    I've no idea what this means but it sounds bad? The new shower just tripped the switch while my wife was using it so I'm getting proper stressed now

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #36
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123875099#Comment_123875099

    I wouldn't say it's bad no



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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123875099#Comment_123875099

    Stasticly if an electric shower is tripping the fuse intermittently then it's usually an electrical issue rather than the shower itself. Electric showers tend to trip instantly and every time turned on unless there is water getting into the casing. 90% of the time it's an electrical issue

    Just saying



  • #38
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Could it be the wiring going from the shower to the board has caused the trip as the first pic I posted is all the wiring going into the ceiling pull cord that got me worried originally

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #39
    [Deleted User]
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    I'm in the shower repair business for around 35 years.

    When you say reputable company, what does that mean to you?

    Most one stop bathroom companies don't use plumbers or electricians. At least in Dublin they don't. Most are tilers. Most electric or power showers are fitted to regulations by most bathroom fitters.

    Look to fit out a bathroom correctly you need electrician, plumber and tiler. I'd argue that a carpenter should be in there too. You should see the damage done to the joices.

    If you don't see three tradesmen & one or two apprentices then you should be worried.

    As stated over & again you should have a cert for any work in the bathroom or on the fusebox. You shouldn't need to ask for it. It's part of the job

    Slightly more expensive but you are usually better off getting individual tradesmen for a bathroom to ensure you have proper tradesmen rather than a few polish tilers pretending to be all the trades



  • #40
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    It's a well established shop, the quote was done very professionally and the owner was very good to deal with. It was about €14k for the job. There was a plumber, electrician and tiler all working on various days with a few other lads doing the donkey work so everything appeared to be done correctly. It was only when I asked for the compliance cert and was fobbed off I started to get a bit concerned. Safe Ireland got back to me today asking for the contractor details so hopefully I'll get an update early next week. I haven't handed any money over yet thankfully and I won't be till I get it sorted out

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #41
    meercat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭meercat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123875734#Comment_123875734

    you’re right to hold the payment.

    A certificate is a requirement for bathroom installations

    You now have the upper hand

    I’ve seen plenty of threads similar to this where great advice is given but no updates so please be respectful of posters and continue to update. Cheers



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  • #42
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123875748#Comment_123875748

    Yep I sure will. I have gotten some great help and advice over the years on boards and it's always very much appreciated

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #43
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123875748#Comment_123875748

    Like any kid I like a good story. As you say, all too often here on boards we don't get to hear the end of the story.

    If OP is successful with Safety Ireland and reports back here it will encourage other readers in years to come to follow up & not be afraid to challenge the "company"



  • #44
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    What the general consensus on the pictures of the work I posted? Does it look unsafe to you all?

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #45
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    Looks like a fast job was done on the shower wiring , it doesn't fully comply at a minimum

    Other stuff needs attention and probably upgrade .

    Original board anyway is old . Very dated setup the immersion not being connected to rcd(went out probably 30yrs ago)

    Data wiring fired into the board and questionable SPD setup



  • #46
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    It's just the shower install I need to deal with for now, if the electrician comes back out and hands me a cert for his work does that mean everything is definitely ok? I'll definitely look into a new distribution board in the near future when I can afford it

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #47
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123876192#Comment_123876192

    at a minimum it doesn't fully comply , no

    That can be said



  • #48
    meercat
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    it’s poor workmanship from everyone involved

    Just because you have a certificate doesn’t mean it’s right unfortunately

    When a rec is working on a distribution board they’re duty bound to take the condition of it as a whole into consideration


    I’d be issuing you a notice of potential hazard on these 2 neutral connections (photos) These take substantial loads during operation and I’d be concerned about their integrity

    I’d also issue a nph on the cables outside the box of your shower pull cord switch

    It’s nearly impossible to terminate 10mm cable into a pull cord that’s why I’d always try to fit a wall mounted switch (outside bathroom obviously)

    I couldn’t be sure that your cable is 10mm either (a certificate and test records which you are entitled to will show this though)


    lots of issues can be resolved by upgrading your board

    Can’t make out if there’s an earth bar for your other household earths either But I do see the main equipotential earthing arrangements



  • #49
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Ok thanks for that, I'll see if safe Ireland will take a look at the pictures and offer an opinion on the works. I've had 3 electrical jobs done in the last 12 months and none of them mentioned anything about any concerns they might have about the board which is a bit scary. The shower guy actually installed a switch on the wall for the extractor fan and a pull cord on the ceiling for the shower for some reason

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #50
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123876289#Comment_123876289

    convenience

    That's why he installed a ceiling pullcord , although nothing wrong with them



  • #51
    meercat
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    convenience is right. Some customers won’t like a cooker type switch on their landing

    It’s also difficult to hide the cables and trunking doesn’t look great

    The wall switch height has to be below 1200mm also so if there’s an existing switch for landing lights etc it really looks poor.



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  • #52
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    i switched to Crabtree ceiling switches with 10s for all instantaneous showers back around 2008

    The cpc size changed later when I had retired from RECI anyhow



  • #53
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    i can see how they've probably fitted the spds for the car charger

    But even then I thought they didn't go downstream of rcds and why not fit them properly and protect the board



  • #54
    Nigzcurran
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    Yep I see what you mean! Proper eyesore, I'm just in the process now of filling and painting so hopefully it looks a a tiny bit better

    1000012504.jpg

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #55
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    what's the extraction setup



  • #56
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Just seems to be the isolator for the extractor fan, it then comes on and off with the light switch

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #57
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123876651#Comment_123876651

    i mean the fan and ducting is that done right



  • #58
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123876710#Comment_123876710

    Sorry yeah there was existing vent there already that they were able to use so not much work involved

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



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