Israel/Palestine Thread

You shouldn't project your lack of empathy on to others.

If Hamas do not accept, this is the greenlight for Israel to unleash hell on Gaza and finish the job off with zero boundaries and the full support (and weapons) of the US.

The current Israeli murder rate of 91 per day will be in the ha'penny place.

God help the Gazans - no-else will/can.

I’d be generally opposed to Israel’s conduct of the war in Gaza but always thought the aid flotilla tactic was counter productive. The outcome is clear even before they set sail and it only provides an opportunity for the IDF to look civilised and humanitarian in their treatment of the protestors subsequent to their detention.

Well that's the reality of what happens and 'abduction' is how their supporters will try to portray it. They'll be deported over the coming days and it will be used by Israel to deflect from the horrors in Gaza.

If you think aid-flotillas are an effective tactic then you're deluded.

Very powerful opinion piece written by Nir Hasson (Haaretz)

"Netanyahu and his failed government are responsible for the two greatest disasters in Israel's history: the massacre of October 7 and the Israeli response to the massacre of October 7.

In the first disaster, about 1,200 people were murdered and killed, women and children were abducted, horrific crimes against humanity were perpetrated.

In the second disaster, we killed tens of thousands of civilians, caused the death of captives, inflicted destruction on a whole district, initiated mass starvation and committed countless war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The first disaster fomented a trauma whose reverberations will be felt for decades to come.

But the second disaster destroyed the foundations on which the State of Israel was built: the international legitimacy, the diplomatic and economic relations with the Arab world and the solidarity within Israeli society"

Nir Hasson

More on Trump's "peace plan" (ultimatum)

Trump said Friday that Hamas has until Sunday, 6 P.M. Washington time, to respond to his Gaza peace plan, warning that if no agreement is reached, "All HELL, like no one has ever seen before, will break out against Hamas."

Arab diplomats told Haaretz that Qatar, Egypt and Turkey are pressuring Hamas to limit its objections to Trump's Gaza proposal rather than reject it outright, fearing this would trigger harsher Israeli military action and worsen the humanitarian crisis. Palestinian and diplomatic sources said Hamas is close to finalizing a formal reply to mediators within days.

The diplomats said Arab states have warned against Israeli amendments that could "empty it of content," saying Netanyahu's changes or unilateral steps would prevent progress. "The American administration must decide whether it stands behind Netanyahu or upholds its own principles," one diplomat said.

Gulf states intend to advance Trump's 21-point plan even without Hamas cooperation, Bloomberg reported, focusing on Article 17, which allows Israel to transfer "terror-free zones" to a temporary international stabilization force if Hamas rejects or delays the proposal.

Undoubtedly, some will claim that the mothers and newborns deserve it for voting for/supporting Hamas. After all, "there are no innocents in Gaza", they are all "human animals" and deserve to be exterminated.

The Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry said 63 Palestinians were killed by IDF fire, including 15 seeking humanitarian aid, in the previous 24 hours, bringing the death toll in Gaza since the war began to 66,288.

UNICEF, the UN's agency for children, said mothers and newborn babies in Gaza face dire conditions as Nasser Hospital in the south of the enclave is overwhelmed with patients fleeing the north and medical resources running out, said on Friday. "The situation for mothers and newborns in Gaza has never been worse in Nasser hospital," spokesperson James Elder said.