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  • 01-10-2025 07:05AM
    #1
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭


    We've just had a bathroom renovation done by a local bathroom shop so should we get a cert for the electrical works done? If so is it the shop or the electrician himself who should supply it? Thanks

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



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  • #2
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    100% ask for cert , REC only permitted to work in bathroom,

    Hold payment until cert is given ,



  • #3
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Thanks I rang the bathroom guy today who said they don't usually issue a cert. I pushed him on it and he said he would ask the electrician, said it involves a bit of hassle having to register the job. I had a look up in the attic and wasn't too impressed with his work which got me thinking he's either not registered or is just shite at his job. It might be all in order and maybe I'm just being too picky

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #4
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    put up some pictures if you have them ,

    I’d say a non registered spark used ,

    Where abouts are you



  • #5
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    I'm probably just over reacting but I had presumed it would all be nice and neat and safely out of the way

    1000012472.jpg 1000012471.jpg 1000012473.jpg

    The big heavy white cable is running tight across the middle of the attic floor. Could have easily ran it along the wall out of the way. The open junction box with all the cables running into it seems very exposed to me as it's right beside the attic door.

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #6
    Orban6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Orban6


    Doesn't have to be neat, just safe.



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  • #7
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    Jesus that’s brutal, fire hazard even , you need to report this to safe electric,

    Show a picture of the fuseboard



  • #8
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    what’s all the other white cables , more circuits ran ?



  • #9
    Orban6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Orban6


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123868360#Comment_123868360

    Looks like cctv or alarm cables.



  • #10
    Orban6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Orban6


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123868355#Comment_123868355

    Why is it a fire hazzard?



  • #11
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    No hopefully not , just to see what breaker

    Was added



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  • #12
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    I think those other white cables are there from last year when we had a different builder in installing a new immersion and extractor fan. It's all getting a bit messy and confusing up there now!

    1000012475.jpg 1000012474.jpg

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #13
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    have you any certs from the last work?
    Think you need to get a REC in to do a assessment, and contact safe electric,

    You have had restricted works done by a none registered contractor,



  • #14
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Just checked and we have a cert for the previous work. Do you think the newer work done installing the shower is unsafe looking? What do you think they should have done differently?

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #15
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    they have single insulation outside of the switch , they have added a circuit to your board , report this as it’s illegals works , you will be daft to leave it as it is



  • #16
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    So I was right to be worried, do you mind just explaining a bit more in detail about those 2 issues please? Just so I have some understanding of what I'm dealing with

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #17
    meercat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭meercat


    jlspark has given you great advice

    It’s a regulation that only a rec does electrical work in a bathroom as it’s a restricted area and also applies to your distribution board

    A certificate should be provided along with test records

    I’m wondering if your shower is wired in 10mm as that’s what’s required from Triton

    It’s a nightmare to fit these cables into a pull cord switch

    You shouldn’t have taken the cover off your distribution board but seen as you did I notice a few issues

    Be careful


    what is the connection going to here( in the below picture )


    on a separate note from previous works

    It doesn’t look like your new immersion is rcd protected.

    The new extraction fan/lights should also be rcd protected


    IMG_4657.jpeg


  • #18
    meercat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭meercat


    this neutral cable has had some cores removed so it’ll fit in the terminal!!!!!!
    (Car charger)

    You would benefit from a distribution board upgrade


    IMG_4658.jpeg


  • #19
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Yeah the distribution board looks very messy and it's definitely on the list of things to do. Your right I shouldn't really have removed the cover so I'll leave it alone now. I've sent a message off to safe Ireland this afternoon asking them for advice on what to do next. My wife said the electrician did the work on the board but he had his helper do the work up in the attic so maybe the helper wasn't qualified to do it? I haven't heard back from the main contractor yet since I asked him about the cert.

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #20
    meercat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭meercat


    he’s legally obligated to provide a certificate

    It’s a simple process to report


    https://safeelectric.ie/help/complaints-form/



  • #21
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    I dont have any information regarding the electrician at all so can't fill out the complaint form

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



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  • #22
    JL spark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭JL spark


    yes . A lot going on in that board , unfortunately this is the normal standard of work these days , quick install and out the door ,



  • #23
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123868348#Comment_123868348

    it’s been a regulation for a while now that attic wiring be tidy



  • #24
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123872640#Comment_123872640

    I just feel that running such a big cable across the exact area where the attic floor was put down is asking for trouble when I've to walk there for the likes of the Christmas decorations. The gable wall is a metre away and would have been ideal to run it along

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #25
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    probably wants a clampdowns on these rogue shops

    Someone had an ikea kitchen fitted and sure the ikea kitchen fitter was doing the electrics , connections and bonding and stuff

    Seems to be no oversight by companies involved in a lot of this crack



  • #26
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123872640#Comment_123872640

    In fairness the attic wiring is the least of his worries.

    Looking at the fuse box you can see the advantages of insisting on the certificate. It details what each REC has done. In this case there are a few RECs that could be called back to improve the quality of the work if the OP insisted on certification on each job



  • #27
    thoneaseessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭thoneaseessi


    data cable fired into the board with no sleeving

    Original board is old those Hager L20s are an ancient breaker



  • #28
    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123873907#Comment_123873907

    Yeah just thinking back we got the car charger installed about 12 months ago and got no cert. Could I insist on one now?

    Time is contagious, everybody's getting old.



  • #29
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123874344#Comment_123874344

    You can & you should.

    It is harder to get these things after the fact. Harder to prove they were even in your home if you went for the cash job.

    I would at least ask & see what happens



  • #30
    10-10-20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,595 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    FOKEARN have their own branded SPD's…! Swish!



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  • #31
    meercat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭meercat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123874344#Comment_123874344

    you should have gotten a certificate. You can’t claim the grant without one



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