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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Jim Gavin has to explain the drone in park fun run now. And he the COO of the aviation authority….the optics!

    https://www.rte.ie/news/presidential-election/2025/1001/1536228-presidential-election-jim-gavin/

    Gavin running out of runway already it seems?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Well i invite you to discuss the 'some', as you say - what portion is comparable? And why?

    The only thing about this that is 'comparable' (i use the term losely) - is that it involves Germany - and Re-arming -

    That is literally all you have as far as i can see.

    • The Circumstances,
    • The public mood and discourse in Germany,
    • the general disposition of power in Europe,
    • the backdrop,
    • the power politics at play,
    • the attitudes of other European Powers,
    • the disposition of Global Power
    • recent global events of consequence

    These are the things that matter, and NONE of them are remotely comparable. And therefore, in my honest opinion, the comparison is ludicrous.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I don't know what part of the country you live in but What a 1950's take you have on modern day Irish society. The "little grannies " as you call them are the women who burned bras and said fu*k you to the church who were trying to live their lives. And you think they're going to be swayed by HH instead of an independent articulate woman like Connolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I don't think the drone thing is a voter loser in any way whatsoever. It's just another example of the decline of MSM. Non story.

    His right hand in the debate lost him the presidency. That and his vague mutterings about stuff.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,869 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    An appalling amateurish cackhanded episode.

    Simply writing it off as an "oversight" will not wash.

    Worse, Jack Chambers is the Director of Elections for this campaign, and he's in the friggin video!

    They've had WAY too many f*** ups in the first couple of weeks, including the Israel reference. Its time Micheál Martin and Sean Dorgan stepped in and delivered the Alex Ferguson hairdryer to all and sundry.

    If that also means dropping in some of the best PR men in the land to micromanage every day from here on in, then that should be done.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Connolly is the youth lefty vote. Whose interest is more global affairs - Palestine Ukraine, Russia - NATO. Instead of Irish domestic affairs. SF and PBP in particular lap that Palestine stuff up. Some even wearing keffiyehs. All little to do with the office of POI ironically.

    It is not the type of thing the rural older female vote, is as concerned with.

    Another poster from Galway pointed out that Connolly’s popularity is mainly based in the City. That does not scream “rural vote” to me.

    Wait until you see when the polls come out. The demographics are fairly predictable. Gavin’s percentage of the female vote will be the lowest of the three, for example.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,627 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Connolly addressed the pejorative language (little grannies coming out of Mass…dear me!) used about some Irish women. Some of the men here referencing women's appearance and cliched views of age really are completely unaware of what they are doing or maybe they aren't. You'd wonder do they address the women in their lives like that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    That Dublin GAA side of my mind, is shedding a metaphorical tear. Jim’s reputation is being slowly chipped away at.

    Simply, by running in a campaign he is not suited to, as he has no political experience and the communication of his message is poor. Maybe he will be playing with the wind by the second half? But I doubt it!

    It is all a Corkman’s fault!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    The last three reports on our DF's highlights several issues, with one of the core issues being personnel. We have ships tied up, aircraft grounded, armed transports that cannot be used properly - all because we don't have the personnel. The funds are there, yet year after year recruitment targets have been missed.

    But yeah, more equipment will fix that? Laughable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    So Jim is not linked to Fianna Fail

    Somebody should tell the boss and his posters have a wee FF logo on it

    Def not linked though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭feelings


    What Connolly is saying is that there has to be an open and honest discussion about where limited public funds are spent. We don’t have endless money, and the people deserve to be informed and involved in those choices.

    Acknowledging the need to strengthen the Defence Forces while also recognising housing, health and other urgent needs is not vacuous, it’s responsible politics. Pretending that defence spending is unlimited or somehow outside democratic debate is what would actually be disingenuous.

    Throwing more money at either won’t magically fix the problem. Connolly has already pointed out the failures of government housing schemes, and as the Defence Forces’ own reports admit - funding is there, but without staff to crew the ships or fly the planes, it won’t matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Hang on a minute, I never slagged off Connolly’s appearance. It is between Connolly and Gavin who I like most as people.

    But who I like as people does not mean I think they are suited to the office of POI.

    In my other post I said that the Grey Rural Vote in particular - the little grannies is the HH vote. What is wrong with that?

    The quote you chose from Connolly is more of the “Mnà na hEireann” call to arms. It is Robinson like.
    But I looked at the Mary Robinson vote from 1990. Barring her home county. It was NOT rural.

    1st count 1990

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    2nd count 1990

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    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭pureza


    Every time I see CC talking about women’s rights,I think of her cosying up to Wallace and Daly’s love in’s with some of the worst offenders internationally on removing women’s rights

    your invitation has been ignored because he hasn’t a leg to stand on



  • Administrators Posts: 55,668 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It is vacuous. If we were suggesting spending more money on welfare I would bet you my mortgage Connolly would not be talking about us needing to "have an open and honest discussion about where limited public funds are spent" before spending it.

    We spend WAY more on housing, health and other "urgent" needs compared to defence spending. Ireland's defence spend is an absolute joke, especially because we are supposedly a "neutral" country.

    I would like Catherine Connolly to say where she thinks the money for defence should come from.

    But she won't. She'll waffle about the military industrial complex. She'll waffle about the 1930s. She'll waffle about peace. She'll waffle about "a need for a discussion".

    She is dodging the issue and hoping nobody notices.

    As I said, she is the worst sort of naive pacifist. Her foreign policy is like someone who thinks we can protect ourselves from crime by ensuring we don't give the Gardai any more money to deal with criminals, because if we minimise Gardai funding, criminals will see the error of their ways and leave us alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,627 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Hang on a minute, I never slagged off Connolly’s appearance.

    I didn't say you did.

    If you don't know that calling women from anywhere - town, country or city - 'little grannies coming out of mass' is not grossly sexist and pejorative, I suggest you say it to a woman you view that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm



    You implied my post was on the same lines though.

    The grey vote Is just a reality, the Grey vote actually take pride in their collective power.
    https://m.independent.ie/business/irish/power-of-grey-vote-keeps-the-axe-at-bay/26590026.html

    SF has never successfully tapped into that voting bloc.

    By the way my own mother (a medium sized granny) is voting for Connolly. But that is geographical rather than any political nuances.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yes, we also need to improve conditions. We need to invest significantly in the DF and bring them up to LOA3 level as recommended.

    My point is that when she discusses investment in the DF she only ever references improving their conditions. She never has (And I suspect never will) agree that it also requires investment in military hardware.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,786 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    The nomination of Doherty back in 2016 was by Joan Collins, Clare Daly, Mick Wallace, Seamus Healy, Maureen O Sullivan, Catherine Connolly, Tommy Broughan, Michael Fitzmaurice, Sean Canney, Mattie McGrath and Ronan Mullen

    You couldn't get a more politically diverse range of politicians if you tried, even my list can be mostly read from left to right leaning politicians.

    She's right in fairness, there is a massive overspend of almost anything to do with the public or civil service in this country. I often thought that if Elon Musks DOGE were tasked with cutting the public spending by half we would actually come out of it with better paid and equipped public and civil servants after the money flow is halved



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,627 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You said specifically 'little grannies coming out of mass'

    The 'Grey vote' applies to men and women.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Fine Gael voter attacks FF over errant drone in coalition shocker 😂

    Cuddihy: Housing crisis is a disaster. Do you agree?

    Heather: Well it's a disaster for people that can't get houses.

    Wow...just wow.

    It's a problem for a lot of other people too Heather. People paying exorbitant rents, commuting long distances, paying massive mortgages etc etc...she simply hasn't a breeze and couldn't care less.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I just found something that made me chuckle.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45999270.amp

    It was a story about the 2018 Presidential election.

    These comments by Mary Lou McDonald stood out -

    "I am not sorry that we had an election - I think it was wrong for Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael to sit on the sidelines,"

    "We decided to challenge in the election - the other parties didn't."

    In light of the 2025 election candidates this is more than ironic.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Maybe someday she'll let facts and evidence enter her reasoning but it doesn't look too likely. Anything that doesn't tally with her ideology is ignored. Or else she outright denies facts. "We don't have an army."

    Drugs get through regularly, for example.

    This is basically saying is there's no point trying to defend our waters because we currently don't and we've never really tried to. A strange sort of logic.

    Do you think we should increase our efforts against drug smuggling? To do that we're going to need a bigger Navy fleet and enough manpower to actually get it out of the harbour.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Here's a mad idea: maybe we could train young people in survival skills, community service etc WITHOUT conscripting them into the military?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Are the majority of people who go to mass not grey?

    Isn’t HH core vote rural, grey and female?

    Don’t many elderly loose height as they age?

    Isn’t the image of little Grannies going mass down the country and discussing Primetime election debates not an appropriate description?

    That is the HH vote and I stand with the little Grannies for this election.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Don't suppose any of the best PR women in the land would be called on, no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    LIke i said I don't know what part of the country you live on but you are definitely stuck in a 1950' s time warp. You seem to have a Pee Flynn concept of the little woman God love us vote. If you're concerned about what connelly might say about " global " issues you must have been mortified at what Michael D has been saying for years! I'd say your preference would be a DeValera type candidate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That was 35 years ago, a very different Ireland.

    In the last ten years we had referendums on marriage equality and repealing the 8th, both of which were said to have no chance of passing rural Ireland, but in the end only one constituency narrowly voted no to each. The results showed that the much vaunted urban-rural divide hardly exists any more.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I don't need to find an instance of her using those phrases or words verbatim. But this is the logical outcome of her words and claims. Since she is opposed to Ukraine defending itself and opposed to other helping to defend or equip Ukraine, I fail to see how Ukraine can be defended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    That is just your biased perception. The Grey vote have a say too.
    My voting record in Presidential elections that I remember

    1997 - don’t remember for the life of me, had other priorities

    2011 - McGuinness 1, Higgins 2

    2018 - Higgins

    I wasn’t impressed with Higgins second term for the very reasons you state. He did not behave apolitically as POI especially in the last few years of his second term.

    For the record I view “little Grannies” as a term of endearment not a pejorative. I stand by that cohort side by side for this vote in this election. 2025 - Humphreys.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,738 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You have absolutely no evidence for saying that Humphrey's vote is made up of that particular cohort. Or any cohort. If you were saying it on the basis of a poll then fine but we have had no proper poll yet, i.e. with the three actual candidates and no-one else in it.

    There is some amount of ridiculous and borderline offensive cliche you've come out with today tbh.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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