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  • 30-09-2025 10:46PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭


    This is (was?) a business forum. Boards has made (demanded?) the typical response of a business in trouble, making a cash call. It would be interesting to see what views/opinions posters have on Boards in general and the cash call in particular, given the poor take-up/response.

    Views?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,337 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Boards is dead. I gave my €50 to thank them them for times past but I don’t expect it to survive the next 12 months. I’ve deliberately reduced the time I spend here

    They (as in Odhran) refuse to do anything that might help the site.

    Interesting the news from the last few days that AI gets most of it’s material from Reddit. Passionate people love to share their passion, always have, always will.

    I see you haven’t paid Mick. Reason?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    Same thinking as you, Gloomster. In one word, attitude. I didn't pay because Board is demanding a bail-out, not for help, and threatening to close if the funds sought are not ponied up. The €100k sum requested is petty cash, an insignificant amount to Boards’ key shareholder. They have not provided any information, not said how or why or where the new cash will be spent, how long it will last, or if/when more will be sought. So, why should it be supported? ( I don't know anyone in Boards, but know a few Mods.)

    For a business to prepare for and survive any ‘crisis’ it must be operationally resilient. The three pillars of operational resilience are (i) Identify and Prepare, (ii) Respond and Adapt, and (iii) Recover and Learn. Boards supervisory management (owners/paid employees) has failed on most of these. Several pro bono Mods were allowed over a protracted period to ruin and destroy active Forums – the History forum for e.g. was a great place but some time ago a bad Mod drove informed posters away; this Business forum is another example, a past Mod there allowed and supported rubbish business ideas (e.g. cupcakes), disliked any negative criticism of an idea  and handed out bans like snuff at a wake. Boards was told but did nothing for too long. Result? The better posters left for good. In History Mod Manach inherited a tomb and in Business you got an empty ‘office’. Same Boards attitude to the changeover of the platform, a classic example of how to mishandle a migration, ignoring user-identified problems, ignoring customer care and making no visible effort at crisis management. (Telling customers “It would be worse if we did not make the change!” is not an appropriate response.) Management failure was again repeated with the (mis)handling of AI / bot traffic when that commenced. All these problems were identified, but Boards did not respond, or adapt, or prepare, or learn. The attitude seemed to be “It’s free, we’ll do it our way, if you don’t like it, leave”. Well, lots did, that’s why Boards is in the present predicament.

    Despite their massive ineptitude, Boards now wants us to Subsidise? Pay for? the losses, without providing any concrete information (other than “Give us cash or we’re taking our ball home”). No suggestion that our €100k would be matched by a cash injection from the shareholders, no explanation whatsoever. It's no wonder attaining the investment target is far off. Two thirds of the target sum has to be raised in a month

    So no, I don’t see why I should back a lame management. It’s not the money - a €50 sub is a piddling sum, but paying it means I’d be accepting a pi$$-poor campaign and a lazy, arrogant approach. If Boards closes, I might miss it for a few days, but it will soon be forgotten, a memory like “Do you remember the Dandelion Market?”. The ‘After Hours’ ranters will rant elsewhere, the key posters on forums such Genealogy, History, Sailing, Business provide rather than look for help, so generally have nothing to lose, it is Boards loss. Many know each other and will remain in contact and will re-appear elsewhere.

    There you have it, sorry for long post no time to shorten it / make it more concise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,337 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Yes, some mods need to look at themselves and remember that the site can only succeed with more users not less.

    I’ve moved over to LinkedIn and even pay their €50 a month subscription. It’s such a good place for business communication. You can learn so much there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    I'm on LinkedIn for professional reasons/research; I don't use it for anything else; much of the stuff I see posted is crap, trite self-agrandissement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,337 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Yeah, but I can meet and talk one to one to business decision makers all over the world. Love it!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,322 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    With Twitter an infested cesspool now, and full of reply scammers on any customer care posts; the Talk To forum setup here could have been taking in a packet - except it died due to the utterly incompetent move to this dump of a platform.

    Site was over commercially immediately then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭JVince


    There was a day that the business forum was very active. But you got warned far too often for being straight up an honest with people who had pipe dreams and no sense of reality for telling them the had a pipe dream and no sense of reality

    Similar in other threads for telling people the obvious (eg the information you require is on the front page of the website you booked on) and should you DARE to give valid reasons for things such as fuel prices or dare to say people are not being price gouged, the cheerleaders on that thread start maga type responses.

    so more and more people who gave answers without BS attached and not fawning over fools just went off elsewhere.

    In terms of how to make it more relevant

    A large deletion of thread categories is probably a best initial option (esp those that are argumentative debates) and keep threads that are truly informative where people look for opinions rather than answers that can be got from a click of a mouse.

    That would mean less moderation as the type of message requiring moderation is mostly gone and make the site more relevant to today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Diddly Squat


    I remember, on a late night discussion show, in 08 or 09 I think, a financial analyst talking about businesses that adapt the business model of increasing costs because they're not making enough money is more than certain of going out of business.

    I joined Boards about a month ago to ask a question in one of the motoring and insurance threads but by the time I'd registered and all the nonsense (registering and verification) that goes with it I had got the answer. Its preposterous in this day and age anyone who is not a member can't ask a question as a guest. It would see a lot more traffic if this was the case in my opinion.

    I've been a member of boards previously and while I would regard myself as very liberal in my views, some rules and moderation on here are a little too strict and don't allow for engaged debate and it only ends up with a majority of similarly minded posters agreeing with each other and the same thing being repeated ad nauseum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,894 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The thing that I find odd is that boards is a community-driven site. If that is your business, then it is absolutely ridiculous for the ownership to not engage with that community. The site's technology/etc is one thing, but the value is the community. And there was a distinct failure in engaging with the community and fostering good relationships with the community. Instead it was left run on autopilot and the community has largely drifted away.

    And then the engagement when a need for money arose was really bad. It'd be a good example of what not to do.

    The market for bulletin board websites is tiny compared to what it was 20+ years ago. But there is definitely a market there to make some money surely. But not without proper interest from the ownership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,316 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I was about to say something similar, I was forced onto LinkedIn a while ago for job seeking and the whole thing is just unpleasant

    They have a feature now that will basically do AI generated posts for you to generate some content. I was tempted to give it a picture of a puddle of vomit and see if it could come up with some meaningful life lesson about using Jira statistics

    Actually that's probably too easy given the similarities between using Jira and vomiting

    Anyway, regarding the site and it's future, I think its quite clear that the subscriptions are nothing more than a final shakedown before the site gets sold. Its most likely to clear debts and make the income picture look a bit more attractive to potential buyers

    I paid for the year in the hope of keeping the site going but it's pretty clear that won't be happening in its current form

    I don't see general discussion sites being a good business model anyway. Most forum sites these days are community sites centered around a particular company or topic

    Perhaps there's a hope the boards community can buy the site and keep it going on donations or advertising, but I don't see it happening unless Odhran has zero success finding another buyer

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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