Israel/Palestine Thread

I actually heard a man say that today. He said Israel will invent a story to enable them to hit the flotilla. And now it appears.

I have read it but Bibi may not have. He made contradictory statements today.

Two Haaretz opinion pieces on "the plan". Seems there's a lot of digging into the substance of the plans and some are not convinced that the plan is robust and it serves neither side (see previous post on Israeli political reaction)

"There are only two very clear-cut parts to this plan.

The first is an immediate release of all the 48 hostages held by Hamas in Gaza, 20 of whom are believed to be alive.

The second is the parallel release of 250 Palestinians serving life sentences for terrorism in Israel, in addition to 1,700 other Palestinian prisoners or detainees held in Israeli jails.

The first clause is the most important priority for the Israeli public, and the focus of a massive public pressure campaign.

The second is the biggest win Hamas can point to in Trump's plan, and the main reason that, from Hamas' perspective, they should say yes to it"
Amir Tibon

"Trump may dream of a Nobel Peace Prize, but that is where it ends.

For Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, he offers neither vision nor even the start of a genuine political process, nor does he challenge Netanyahu's outright opposition to Palestinian statehood.

In reality, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority alike are being forced to choose between foreign rule or open-ended occupation, without any clear framework"
Jack Khoury

Hamas agreeing to the deal is the worst outcome for Netanyahu. The government plans in tatters, revolt in the knesset, sharing a cell with Duterte - he's having a living nightmare I reckon.

Nearly as bad as being made apologise to Qatar. I'd imagine he nearly choked on that oversized slice of humble pie (or red velvet cake)

Can you please stop with this false equivalent. NI was part of the UK for over 800 years, the GFA helped to broker peace in NI with a provision that if the people of NI vote for a united IRL and if IRL agrees then it happens, that could be tomorrow and the decision is the people of NI.

On the other hand Palestine is a country, Israel invaded it, has taken land from Palestine for over 40 years. To get peace you need Israel to go back into their box and get out of Palestine, if Palestine isn't negotiating for peace then its a surrender, not an agreement. History will paint Israel the way Germany was and Netanyahu like Hitler. I wonder what the honest Jews think of how their homeland of Israel is being dragged into the gutter.

Who is "the British Government"?

I'd recommend fact checking yourself first before throwing out accusations that people "obviously have no idea about xyz" to avoid embarrassment.

But what is clear is the UK is by far in agreement that Israel is carrying out a Genocide in Gaza - as is much of the rest of the world.

I can see that that must be very inconvenient for those who are desperately trying to peddle the opposing view. A lonely place I'd imagine.