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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Plus further increases in energy costs and a probable rise in the minimum wage from January. Don't know how many businesses are coping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Nickindublin


    Electricity rates are twice the price of 4 years ago. Insurance is probably up 50%. Minimum wage was 10.20 in 2021 so that up 33% and dont forget that you have to extra 12% employers prsi on that increase plus holiday pay plus an extra BH plus a weeks sick pay.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    food is great, but for me service is terrible on a consistent basis(years) friends have also stopped going.

    it’s a real shame as I much prefer the food compared the the grange, H and H, graduate etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,871 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah, that is a pity alright, the food is well above the others, generally.

    Though I did have a piece of freshly cooked plaice in The Grange lately, and have to say it was perfect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,600 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Slim Chickens to open in Dundrum.

    Yet another chicken restaurant.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭mikeybhoy


    Don't know how the Horse and Hound stays in business it's a horrible pub and despite living in the area for over 20 years I think I've only been in it once or twice and don't know anyone who eats or drinks there.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Food is good (not as good as McCormacks imo), servic is fine, but ultimately now its a restaurant dressed up as a pub, rather than a pub that does food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,871 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Overall its a sad state of affairs. I remember the Magic Carpet and the Horse and Hound of old and they were hopping. I remember, in particular, Italia '90 and the Horse and Hound.

    We lived near there and my Dad was gone to the tournament with a bunch of mates that played Golf out of the H&H, we used to go down to the lounge and watch the games. Such brilliant times. I probably had my first few legal pints of lager in there too not long after.

    Its sad that such nanny-stateism around the price of alcohol generally has ruined such vital community venues. And if its this bad in the wealthier suburbs, it must be devastating in small rural villages, where isolation can be such a chronic social issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    id argue its a lot more to do with the stamping out of rampant drink driving than anything else, and im glad it has been done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    If you mean Minimum Alcohol Pricing, I can't see how that makes any difference to pubs.

    Maybe you're talking about duties etc?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    I'd guess he means duties alright - it's killing pubs.

    I remember the days when Blackrock had more than ten pubs and they were nearly always hopping and had their unique charm. Similarly the Magic Carpet, Playwright Pub etc were great spots to head out to. Bumping into people watching Ireland the 2002 World Cup was amazing because of the atmosphere and the friends you met.

    Somewhat differently to others, I've found the food in the Horse and Hound to be quite middle of the road but a fun place to have a few drinks. I'd be inclined to go more and I might know more people in the community but the prices are outrageous (broadly).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    pubs in dalkey seem to be doing fine, restaurants likewise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    The people behind Dope Tapas in Dun Laoghaire finally came to their senses and renamed it Cala. They've also dropped the tapas menu (which was extremely limited) for a more traditional menu. Still no veggie options though 😒



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Young people all over the world are drinking significantly less than they did 20 or 30 years ago. The statistics are really clear that its as true in places with much cheaper alcohol in pubs as in Ireland.

    Alcohol duties also haven't increased since 2013. The reason prices keep going up has far more to do with the suppliers like Diageo, or how the pubs themselves are run.

    Which would suggest its not taxes that are keeping people away and 'killing pubs'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Agree. And lots of other contributory factors - people are a lot more health / fitness conscious and drink less

    Some have swapped a weekend treat of a couple of pints for a fancy coffee and a pastry (which can cost nearly the same!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,632 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    The pubs in Dublin that have a cluster of places together are generally busy. Dalkey being one example.

    Its the pubs out on their own that seem to struggle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,871 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its a combination of minimum unit pricing and duties and taxes.

    And its fine for places like Dalkey who have a wealthy catchment area that can drink and eat out frequently, and summon a Taxi home without a second thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Nickindublin


    The biggest contributer is minimum wage increases. We can all say we want a living wage etc but you will have to pay for it. Pubs Supermarkets etc. When you increase minimum wage by 34% over a number of years it has to be paid for by joe soap. The vast majority of people have not seen their wages increase by that %. So we feel the pinch when we go out to the pub restaurant supermarket etc. Salaries are the biggest cost to most buisness on the high street.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Again, alcohol duties haven't increases since 2013, well over a decade ago. So how exactly are they driving people out of the pubs in 2025?

    And minimum unit pricing was brought in, and lobbied for by the LVI, specifically to push people into pubs. It doesn't impact any alcohol sold in a pub at all, it increases the price of alcohol sold in supermarkets - making them a less attractive option compared to a pub.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    It will a misguided policy to try push people back into pubs.

    As prices in supermarkets/off licenses have gone up people have less discretionary spending, hence less to spend by going to the pub.

    Fewer people going to pubs rises prices as publicans need to charge more as they are selling less, rent, light and heating costs don't reduce if you've less people walking through the doors.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Thats not what the LVI, or individual publicans, said about the measure when they lobbied for it. They said it would get people drinking in pubs again, instead of drinking at home, because the price differential would narrow. And that its "safer" and "better for the community" to have people drinking in pubs instead, as their moral reasoning (definitely not profit..).

    Their stance makes far more logical sense than yours that people's overall household budgets suffer so much from the minor increase from MUP that they can no longer afford to go out for a pint or two.

    The fairly obvious statistical facts are that Ireland had far more pubs than it needed for our increasingly health conscious population, and a huge number of the pubs are just very badly run as businesses. The idea that its all the government's fault somehow is just a cop-out.

    The town I'm from originally down the country had 15 pubs for a population of 2000 people in the 1990s for example. It now has 3. A closure rate of 80% might sound bad, but 15 pubs was always going to be unsustainable for a population of that size without very large numbers of alcoholics being present spending far too much of their income on booze.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Shopfitters are in the old PTSB building in Stillorgan. Hopefully another Nail Bar!!!!!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Nickindublin


    A nail bar is exactly whats needed. When i get my nails done i like to get each nail done in a different nail bar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,956 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    I hope not. What the residents of Stillorgan are crying out for is an American candy shop 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Nickindublin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    What they are really crying out for is a swimming pool. Has that roof on Glenalbyn that was going to collapse imminently been touched since? 12 years and counting!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭Mav11


    You couldn't go swimming before getting your nails done. Peasant.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 7,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Honestly, all barbers seem to be really busy...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭JVince


    Assuming a business actively manages their utilities, cost is up about 35% (my current rate is 26.3c including ALL charges - electricity is 15.13c and the carrier/transmission cost is 11.28c. That's the September figure.

    Insurance costs have actually come down for most businesses. Mine are down about 15% for public liability, interruption, theft etc. Building insurance is up because the rebuild costs are higher.

    Wages are certainly an issue and when you add prsi, holiday and bank holiday, a min wage staff costs about €17.50 an hour.

    So it's not the gloom and doom some "interested" parties will throw about



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,210 ✭✭✭dublinman1990




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