Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Whatever about whether he got the exact players he needed, it doesn't absolve him from rigidly sticking to a formation that ends up with Mason Mount at left wing back. Also there's no evidence that he'd have gotten us to where we wanted to go if he had gotten more players that fitted his system like a glove. A 10-15% improvement in performance (which is pretty big) would still leave us short. I don't feel it'd have made much of a difference in any case TBH.

I do think after the Grimbsy game that we should've pulled the plug on that awful Garnacho transfer. Chelsea didn't pay anywhere near enough for him and the next manager is almost certainly going to want another winger now.

It was only last week lads on here expected 3 wins on the bounce (including Liverpool!!) after beating 10 man Chelsea in 40 minutes.

Or maybe he just coaches his team very well? An aggressive high press is just one characteristic of Iraola's style of play. Overall all I'd say Iraola's style is better suited to the squad than Amorim's possession based style.

Is there anything to be said to play with one more centre back. Get Yoro into the team. Back 4 with 2 wing backs. Good to get the pace of Yoro into the team. Replace Sesko for Yoro offer more protection for the keeper.

It’s funny cause this is just how football works but some people will say ‘well we’ve tried new managers so now what’ like you’re just supposed to stick with one no matter what.

The way we play it would end up being a back 6. Couple that with no striker. We'd be fantastic.

Imagine if we lined up like this against Sunderland. (minus Martinez, swap for DeLigt)

Does anyone disagree that we'd be way more effective?

Ive called that before, offensively looks good, also applies the front 4 to apply pressure to win the ball back early in transition but also allowing either Maz or Dorgu to push in the defensive mid as back up on either side to cut out the wide channels.

This news about Ineos waiting until November to possibly sack Amorim because of saving money on a payout is foolish. We could be out of challenging for a Europe spot in the table by then and overall miss out on a lot more money. They need to make the move now.

So just stick Bruno Fernandes in there, move him out of his best position, and let him play 90 minutes week in week out no matter how badly he plays. Don't focus on trying to improve the teenager who started a major international final a few months before you arrived.

Sadiki will likely donimate whoever our sole midfielder is and Xhaka should have a field day picking out passes through our defence.

I actually think the opposite. He was aiming to spark a reaction from the players with the interview after the Grimbsy game (he's tried this technique quite a few times over his tenure). He was still fighting at that point and the players reacted with a decent performance in the next game v Burnley. I think his reaction after the Brentford defeat was far more telling - he was subdued and out of ideas.

Good point.

I would add he's said a 3/4 times (including after the Grimsby game) he would walk away if that's what the club wanted. He said it the first time only 2/3 months in the job.

Hindsight is wonderful, but I get the distinct impression that when he first walked into Old Trafford, Amorim got spooked by the sheer scale of the club and the size of the task of being always on form because that's what the Premier League demands, and it mentally broke him from the off. And he's doubled down into what he knows because of it, even if it's been a disaster.

This level of football is just too much for him, he hasn't handled it mentally in any shape or form, and that's transferred to the training ground, and ultimately the pitch.

This level is too big for him, and like his compatriot Andre Villas Boas before him, the reality of this level has spooked him big time, he's been found out that the Premier League is way above his level, and it's probably ended his career at the top level before it's started.

And I think those few times he said he'd walk away if that's what the club and the fans want was him half admitting that this is too much for him.

Either way, he's in there less than a year and has said it a few times, I'd say it says this guy hasn't the mentality for the job. And United can't have a man in charge who's mentally incapable of the challenge of managing United.

Getting rid of him wouldn't just be best for the club, it's be good for Amorim too, at this stage he looks broken by the reality of it, and the whole situation isn't going to get better for either the longer he stays.

Has Mount ever been played by Amorim at 8? Stick one of Cas or Ugarte beside him, rotate Mainoo in. Surely he'd be better there than Bruno? I suppose it's irrelevant now as he won't be there much longer but at this stage why not have a look-see