Israel/Palestine Thread

You object to war crimes. Will you be out throwing punches at passing cyclists because they wear an Israeli jersey?

The current holocaust aggressors have now openly stated that he next phase of their lies and deceit will be on tick tock,x,etc…..mainly tick tock………..Will we see the IDF giving the Palestinian's aid and warning of all bombings of buildings than like Netanyahu said they do all the time? or a more negative person would say its 100% PR war machine will go into effect……..Thought it was bad Specifically aimed at collage universities in the US,no doubt we will get a blast of it here too…..Kinda sound like Ministry of Propaganda talk…….I'm sure i read something like that regarding another incident happened back in the 40s from a load of recent posts here……..Absolutely full of hatred the Israeli's military and population.Hitler was a man who started a fire-Netanyahu didn't need to start a fire of complete hatred and terror,its been there for years…..

An organisation created exclusively to attempt to counter valid, fact based points made by the UN to justify Israeli illegal actions.

Factually, baby killers and colonisers is accurate. This has been demonstrably proven time and time again. It's not antisemitic to call Israel and Zionism out for this.

It WOULD be antisemitic to blame ALL Jews regardless.

Antisemitism??,so in future to criticise Israel/Civilians and the IDF we have to look-up the percent of Jews supporting the "transfer (forced expulsion) of Arab citizens of Israel to other countries otherwise everyones post in here is Anti-Semitic?…..I dont remember having to look up stats to critisce other countries actions without being labeled a racist in my lifetime……Antisemitism is a great word when Israel wants people to shut up condemning their actions

Focusing on this. "Some highlights.

It begins (UN Report) its examination of the accusation of genocide with the following beauty.

“On 7 October 2023, Israel launched its military offensive in Gaza, which included airstrikes and ground operations.”

This statement is practically goading Jews about the events of OCT 7th. I find it difficult to believe any honest broker would make such a bizarre declaration in such an important report. No mention of Hamas, the Jews just got up one morning and launched an invasion for the craic."

The report was specifically about whether or not Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. The very top of the report says "Legal analysis of the conduct of Israel in Gaza pursuant to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide."

Mentioning what Hamas did on October 7th doesn't change anything about that fact. If anything it would be an equivocation. Do you think that provocation is an excuse to commit genocide?

The difference is that defence of one's own citizens AFTER an actual massacre so as to prevent future, similar massacres - as promised by Hamas - is not genocide. Even when civilians die. Otherwise all wars would be genocide.

Other proof that it's not genocide is that the so-called famine has been shown to be a fake:

It was already clear from the cherry-picked photographs in the western media: the chances that all the photos of starving children would all turn out to be seriously ill children, many of whom used to receive free medical treatment in Israel before Hamas made that impossible after October 7th, were so low as to mean that normal healthy children were not actually starving. Especially as the starving children were always accompanied by normal or overweight family - who were cropped out of some versions. Which shows that the lie was deliberate. The NYT had to post a retraction of their claims, but of course RTE seems to have missed that.

And then of course there's the oddity of all the new restaurants opening in Gaza amid a "famine. And the newest iphones are always available to film the "genocide".

Again, all things that RTE coverage seems to have missed. Funny, that.

the middle east has had jewish and christian communities for centuries and still does so are already benefiting from diversity.
it was not and never will be up to other arab countries to facilitate israel's biblical claptrap by taking in palestinians when israel could learn about borders and actually stick to the ones they were given.
whether you like it or not, it is actually not the case that LGBT have full equality in israel, even some jewish communities face large scale discrimination in israel.
no i think questioning the need for a "jewish homeland" and or where that should be is very fair as realistically a single ethno/religious supremicist state is not optimal in any way.

You're responding to someone who once said if the Palestinians are so hungry why don't they just bake some bread

I never said there was no anti semitism, but it suits you to misrepresent my position. The vast majority of criticism is not anti semitic. You, because you seek to absolve Israel of blame, want to cast all criticism of Israel as anti semitic. I can't say i am surprised you refute the report based on a biased source because you are an apologist for a state comitting war crimes. Therefore any report critical of Israel will be dismissed as flawed. It's funny how the perpetrators of war crimes always seek to portray themselves as the victims of a political witchhunt. You are in good company with Russian apologists.

No. Of course not. I don't condone unprovoked physical violence no matter how despicable i find someone views. If any one wearing an Israeli jersey is physically attacked I don't condone that. Attacking someone based purely on the fact you believe they are jewish or Israeli is in my view anti semitic

On the other hand peaceful protest against people representing the Israeli state competing in sporting events is not. No more so than calling people Russiaphobes for peacefully protesting against Russia competing in sporting events

They will be easy to spot though in the queue for a new iPhone outside that shop in Gaza.

The difference is that defence of one's own citizens AFTER an actual massacre so as to prevent future, similar massacres - as promised by Hamas - is not genocide.

As per usual, you fail to make a lick of sense with your narratives.

Israel are committing genocide. It is overwhelming the number institutions specialising in this subject claiming it as so, and you have no valid retort to discount these.

So your point must be that even though Israel are committing genocide, it shouldn't be called genocide because they are trying to prevent future massacres? That is as crazy as refusing to call October 7th a massacre and saying it was purely self defense. After all, Gazans suffered far greater massacres at the hand of Israel than the other way around.

Why do you find it so easy to accept the mass murder of Palestinians? In your narrative they have to suck up all that has happened to them, all they have endured, yet Israel are justified in committing genocide due to October 7th.

Why do you place Israeli lives as of more worth than Palestinians? And don't say you don't, we all see your posts. Just admit it and attempt to explain the thought process behind it please?

If genocide is not a crime if it is in response to a massacre is everything the Palestinians have done since the Qibya massacre justified?

We are told the leaders of the October 7th massacre can have no part in future elections in Gaza yet the leader of the Qibya massacre went on to become Israeli prime minister.
Why do you treat the Israeli and Palestinian response to attacks on them differently?

It wasn't the last massacre he had a hand in either. I very much doubt you will get an answer- the Israeli apologists tend to run away when confronted with questions they dont like.