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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    There has to be interim talk or else why get rid of Amorim. Ive mentioned that talks to other couches need yo happen it get someone else in tull end of season

    Amorim is showing hes stuck in his ways and it doesn't work.

    Unless he changes now which he wont by history, he's too stubborn on something that doesnt work so he's above should be looking qt what's available.

    I reckon they've gone heavy deep with Amorim as the guy they won't save face 5i sack him.

    Was only last week him said Amorim needs to get CL football it hes gone.

    All pure shite, we are a disaster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    So if he'd had better players his clueless management wouldn't have been an issue?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,302 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i'd ask klopp the question + a g5 and lots of money. aside from that, i think anyone improves the results. cos this is shocking, and has been since the get go.

    we have been gaslight for a year now. its so bizarre.

    1st team games….the system is so complicated it takes a while. but conte did it in a few days.

    next 10 games….the system is mad complicated its takes a while. but conte did it in a few days.

    next 10 games….the focus is on the europa league so the league dont matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    How is 2nd and 3rd a failure especially considering our finishes of late?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    I think Ole had a good thing going but the summer transfer window of 2021 really upset things. We signed Varane as a partner for Harry Maguire, who was having a brilliant season up until his injury at Villa before the Europa league final, he went to the euros and got in team of the tournament, the Greece debacle really affected him and he was no longer the same player, and Sancho was bought so we would finally have a right sided midfielder but unfortunately neither of them worked out, add in the fact that he was convinced to buy Ronaldo on the last day of the transfer window it completely upset what the manager had going on. Cavani was no longer interested. Ole wanted Declan Rice, he didn’t get him, he wanted Haaland, he didn’t get him.. Ole was let down by the board and the club, I think if things had been different, we could have really challenged that season. I’d go for Ole and Carrick to take over until the end of the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,477 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Ineos have failed spectacularly in every single sporting project they have tried and are in the process of failing again here. I'd say the only reason Amorim is still there is so they can blame him when this season is another failure. There will be a new guy in after the November international break but then he will have the excuse that this season is a write off. Amorim should have been sacked last January, but it's time for Wilcox and Berrada to go with him now too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,977 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    They need to get rid of Amorim quanto rapido, abject failure.

    Poor tempo, poor energy, numerous mistakes and lack of effort from the team.

    They just cannot mix it with the so called 'lesser teams ' who are physically able to dominate them.

    That coupled with an intransigent manager with no sideline 'presence' is relegation danger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    Could things get worse if they sack this bluff of a manager and bring someone in to give it a go?

    For me that would be a massive NO.

    Time is up since Grimsby. Get him out before we end up relegated.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,211 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Yet another thing Amorim couldn't do, get a new manager bounce. But just because he couldn't doesn't mean nobody could, so I'd fully expect any interim manager to do what RVN did and pick up some wins simply by doing the basics.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Acosta


    If the reports of the 12 million compensation are true, it's possible INEOS might have decided to wait until the early November to sack him, so they don't have to pay him all that. The club play 5 more games before he's been manager for a year, so things could be fairly grim by then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,477 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    They should start a gofundme and he'd be back in Portugal ready to start his retirement by tomorrow morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Acosta


    I think the story about the payoff details might have come from The Mail. So the chances are those figures aren't correct anyway. I'm just trying to think of some sort of logical reason why he's still in place. He should have been sacked weeks ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    apparently he very much wanted a midfielder but was overruled, so I suppose he didn’t get everything he wanted….. I don’t know what his wants were regarding a goalkeeper, but the current goalkeeper is a farce.

    Regardless it does feel like the end, once again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭scottser


    I thought that Amorim was employed as a head coach, not a manager, and would be technically accomplished enough to coach whatever system is required by the directorate. I thought this was a sensible approach after ETH ran the transfer show and bought the wrong players at huge cost. I just dont get why the club allows RA to be so inflexible unless he's doing so under the instruction of the club. The next coach should be that; able to utilise multiple systems and correct imbalances on the pitch with the correct substitutions. I'm fukn sick of 'philosophy' managers, I just want someone in who can get the best from the players and can set up a team to our strengths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,736 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Just because you're overruled doesn't mean you play Bruno in a midfield 2

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,266 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Simon Stone reporting that no plans to replace Amorim and that he will be judged on a full season.

    Somehow this new regime is worse than the last. Incredible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Caustic


    The annoying thing for me anyways is not that Bruno plays as a 2 (given the state of our midfield and mainoos form last year) but he definitely should not be playing there all the time, mainoo should have gotten more chances, Bruno should be subbed off when he is playing shite, or bring him back in case of emergencies like yesterday, mainoo and Bruno played as a two and it wasn't a issue but we were already behind and brentdord didn't care about not having the ball, That's some probable solutions all within the formation the manager plays, as others have said given the squad building over the summer the squad just isn't suited to playing 343.

    I do think the manager was let down in the summer with the signings in terms of building the squad for a 343 but he also had an easy excuse to pivot and just say he doesn't have the profile of midfielders to play it which he was promised



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,453 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    United women's team is the pride and joy. Beating Liverpool 2-0

    Top of the table too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,266 ✭✭✭Unearthly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Seattle


    That's most likely just code for the fact they have no plan B ready to go. No surprise, it's not straightforward. As said before, it's so easy to say he has to go when you're sitting on the sidelines but the logistics of how and who you replace him with is complicated. It's much easier to hold him in place and express confidence until you have a plan.

    They have nothing to gain from briefing that the manager is in danger (and a refusal to comment when asked would equate to that because they have responded with briefs that they confidence in him up until this point).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Sources insist minority owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe is backing Amorim, and feels it is only fair to judge the Portuguese on a full season with what he views as the right team.

    Multiple suggestions from external sources that shortlists of replacements have been drawn up have been dismissed by United officials, who are adamant no-one is being lined up to replace Amorim.

    We are run by idiots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭randd1


    Was it Lausanne and Nice they were over and didn’t improve either?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Seattle


    Maybe don't take every single statement that comes out at face value? You do know how the world works, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Acosta


    It will be next to impossible for INEOS to keep him in place for much longer, if there's no improvement. If by some chance they did, and the club finished the season hovering about the relegation zone, the fans won't just be looking for the manager to go. They'll want Brexit Jim and co. out the door too.

    But I'd say a hammering by Liverpool, or anyone else, in the near future, and he'll be gone. He should be gone already, but it looks like INEOS have no plan for what to do, if and when they do get rid of him. They've got their biggest decisions badly wrong since taking over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    It's a club brief, I know how the Football world works.

    Wheeler briefed too

    Screenshot_2025-09-28-14-34-50-881.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Regardless of that statement, we ARE run by idiots

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Seattle


    Yeah I know it's a club brief.

    What I'm saying is they're not necessarily being truthful. What's far more likely to be happening behind the scenes is they will be sounding out different options and drawing up plans to possibly replace him within the next few weeks. Say what you want about INEOS, but they're not completely thick. They know his position will be totally untenable if he loses to Sunderland and Liverpool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Seattle


    This is a different situation to Solskjaer and ETH.

    With Solskjaer, it was natural that Carrick/McKenna would caretake for a few weeks. RVN was an obvious bridge after ETH was sacked.

    Amorim is different - most of us don't even know who his assistant is. There's no obvious internal caretaker. Fletcher maybe? But can we really just pull him out of the U-18s coaching setup like that?

    Bringing Ole or Carrick in for a week or two would be an insult so that's not viable. May as well keep Amorim until the permanent manager is selected instead of going through that.

    It's not actually that easy when you stretch your brain and put yourself into the position of having to make these decisions and be accountable for them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭randd1


    Given the form of last year, and the start to this one, should they not have had a plan in place “just in case”?

    INEOS’s running of the club looks reactionary rather than planned.



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