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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Winter is obviously lurking on this thread:-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,409 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Wonder if Emery might leave Villa?

    Would love Iraola or Glasner but don't see why either would leave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭54and56




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Glasner threatened to quit if Palace sold Guehi allegedly. He’s very unhappy about the lack of investment at Palace. Either him or Iraola would say yes to us. Emery seems like he’s burning out at Villa too, I’d be lesser keen on him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭FrankN1


    People wondering why the Crystal Palace or Bournemouth coaches wouldn't come to us. We are **** but they would come at the first chance of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    This.

    And they manage Crystal Palace and Bournemouth so hardly big name clubs or clubs that are going places. Palace only won their first major honour as a club a few months and Bournemouth's biggest trophy won was the championship.

    So while things are going well for them atm they're managing clubs who are basically stepping stones for people to get bigger moves. Wait too long to make that move and it might never come around if you hit a rough patch form wise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,225 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    I just don't know if Ratcliffe & Co will drop the hammer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,302 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i think the only reason they wont is the complete wrong reason - they wont want to admit to **** up again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,736 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    So what is Winter advocating here? We play a low block counter attacking style? Because Maguire has the turn circle of an oil tanker amd Shaw is a busted flush at this level now. Maybe, just maybe, the manager needs to be braver and pick the likes of Yoro and Heaven against a team that like to sit back and counter.

    On Bruno, he's been a key figure in a losing formula for a long time now. A team that doesn't really create a lot of repeatable chances and has a poor scoring record in the league might just be because the tailsman has no positional awareness amd tries to force everything, all the time.

    As a teamwe need to move on from the old guard amd let the next group.of players like Mbeumo, Cunha, Amad take the reigns.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭BenK




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,042 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Needs to be sacked even if we win that game ten nil.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭waywill1966


    Glasner is not the answer, he’s this years Graham Potter when he was at Brighton.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,042 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    But Interim managers can work out very bad (Ragnick)

    Rangnick did a damn sight better job than Amorim is doing. Even with the uncertainty and lack of authority of being an interim hanging over him.

    Amorim has an even worse win % than Wilf McGuinness and Frank O'Farrell in what was the worst era of the club's post-war history. Being unable to win two league games in a row is laughable incompetence.

    There is no way Amorim is going to change his way of playing now. He knows he is getting sacked, he will just see it out and pocket the big cheque as a reward for being the worst United manager ever and, given the resources available to him, quite probably the worst Premier League manager ever. We sure know how to pick 'em don't we.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    I been a defender of Amorim for ages, its sunk in now that he needs to go.

    Cut ties and be dine with it. Ive been too sentimental about it.

    Get Ole in for the rest of the season and then have a look or start putting feelers out now for while available in the summer.

    Amorim has gotten everything hes asked for, more training time on the pitch, its only 1 game a week and there's zero improvement.

    Nice guys finish last and his talk won't cut it anymore. The match going fans have given him more leeway than anyone else. These are the same fans signing his name in away defeats etc.

    INEOS need to pull the finger out and take action.

    I'm so fed up of this club being a shambles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,042 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The attacking lineup is good on paper but when our midfield is useless and our defence is soft as shite, and our keeper appears to have never seen a football match in his life then what hope do they have?

    They'll be chasing a 2 or 3 goal deficit every game, with shag all service

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,042 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    What evidence do we have that Ineos are not idiots? Very little so far.

    a new manager can easily make progression with the squad currently assembled.

    Here's hoping. When you see what other clubs are doing with well-managed squads that are clearly on paper inferior to ours, it makes you sick in your mouth

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    A mid 2 of Ugarte/Casemiro with Bruno, Cunha, and Mbuemo ahead of them is much more solid that what we have now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Same. I will be annoyed if they don’t act tomorrow. I wouldn’t risk letting him have the Sunderland game - the chances are that letting some form of caretaker come in for that game ends in a better result. Take the international break to agree with an interim to take over until the end of the season. I’m fine with Ole (suggested it when EtH was sacked, didn’t want them to rush into someone) - but there’s also the chance he may not want it. Hard to know. RvN doesn’t fill me with confidence even as an interim option. Beat a very poor Leicester side twice, PAOK first half was awful and the Chelsea game was meh. Carrick? I don’t know. It’s a long season if he ends up not being able to handle it.

    The main thing is, we have 32 league games left. The season isn’t over. Act now, don’t delay the inevitable and there is still a chance of a respectable league finish. Newcastle, Villa & Forest finished in the places we are aiming for this year and they have all started poorly. So it’s like a second chance in a way - but you can’t have Amorim around for it. It won’t work, why wait for it to get worse.

    The players do need to be better as well. There are definitely individual errors contributing to poor results. I suppose you could say that for every team this season though. I don’t know if it’s more of an issue with us or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    You can throw Mainoo in to the mix as well as Amad further up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Give it Keaney



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,042 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well maybe he should be retained as a director of football then, because as a manager he is f'kin atrocious

    You can't really credit Amorim with players like Greenwood and Sancho who were on the off-ramp anyway, Rashford dirtied his own bib and would have been thrun out by any manager worth his salt. Contract expiries did the rest.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Ragnick gets an oddly hard time he came into a mess and while we didn't play good football under him he organized us well and winning games, but when we got knocked out of the champions league the players gave up, I remember the Bruno interview saying we had nothing left to play for even though we were well in the battle for top 4, then Fred also got injured the only lad who would run at the time and results fell off a cliff and we missed top 4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Dear God not RVN, he got the leister job for the east stint he had as interim. His record there is sour. Not enough needed for the rest of the season.

    Carrick, I can't comment as didnt watch any of his time at Middlesbrough, someone mentioned it faded pretty badly towards the end.

    I'd give it to Ole because hes been under the same pressure as before, even more so last time with CL, psg night for example.

    We've one game a week, Ole had us playing attacking football that scores goals. Was leaky in defence but sure how much more leaky can we get now.p

    Hes not tied to any system formation etc, he plays players that do a job in their position, he got great performances from Fred for example.

    We gave Bruno who is one of the better no.10s in Europe, stats speak to that and yet we are playing him in a more defensive position.

    Cuhna-Bruno-Mbeumo is a frightening 3 behind Sesko. Have Mount and or Amad to come on against tired legs. Those 2 runs their arses off.

    Mid is between Mainoo, Ugarte, Casimeroo.

    Dorgu, DeLigt, Yoro, Maz/Dalot.

    That team setup would get European football, what type, i don't know but we'd be challenging.

    This season seems the weakest it has been since lesicter won. We should be absolutely be pushing for higher spots in the table.

    (Sorry, bit of a rant)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Maguire is far from a waster or clown. He's been very solid for us in his latter stages at the club. He shouldn't be talked in the same as the others imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,903 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I’d say Ole would be surprised to come back after 4 years and see Maguire, Dalot and Shaw still starting in United’s defence !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,961 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    Ridiculous comment. Glasner is clearly an excellent coach. Made significant improvements at every club he has coached.

    And a trophy winner too, won the Europa league with Eintracht. And an FA Cup win against the odds vs Man City.

    The problem for Utd is he's very much a 3-4-2-1 man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Yep, fine with Ole (I was commenting on the other names that were mentioned earlier) but I don’t think it’s a guaranteed yes. It might be that he’s happy and eager to come in and help out but he might also not fancy going back to a club where it ended badly for him and was sacked. On paper, it looks like a great opportunity for him.

    Getting way ahead of myself I know but if that happens and if he does very well - you find yourself in a situation where there is the temptation of making the same mistake again and making it permanent 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Oh no wasn't a slight on you man was just in a rant and went with it 😅

    Midfield has been a issue for years and Ole wanted Rice for example but wasn't backed by Woodword. He told the club about Halland years ago before he made his big move to Dortmund and Sesko was a signing he wanted when younger but the club wouldn't pay the 1.5mil at the time.

    I'd say he'd take the job again and sure if he gets in contention for CL its a win win. Would put him in contention full time.

    Getting way ahead of myself of whataboutry but this is what my mental state if the club has come to 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭twinex


    I'm Ole in (interim) but personally I wouldn't go back to a place where I got the bullet.

    But There might be a bit of unfinished business at play with how it ended, oh and money talks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Caustic


    It would be absolute insanity to bring back ole, this time he wouldn't have McKenna and Carrick to hold his hand and would have to bring in staff with him. The man has failed everywhere he has been bar Norway and even the lad who replaced him at molde won as much as him twice as quick



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