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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭paulbok


    I thought his go-to treatment for a pregnant woman, was to go f#ck a pornstar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep, the fever and the underlying viral infection is ironically far more established as a causative factor in autism in some cases. Also worth noting that everything from environment to genetics are also causative factors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    So a pregnant MAGA idiot goes to her doctor with a fever, and the doctor says to take Tylenol, and the MAGA idiot refuses because of what she heard Trump saying. It is almost impossible to describe that level of stupidity but you know it is going to happen across America now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Isnt Tylenol just a brand thats paracetamol?

    Be like someone here trying to ban Panadol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I doubt it. If he has heard of Boards.ie, he'll just assume that it's a lumber company.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Why not read them and let us know what they say instead of regurgitating Maga drivel then?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    They used the specific name as well. But then Trump referenced the brand name and went on a deranged rant which included claiming the MMR vaccine was dangerous and that you shouldn't need the hepatitis vaccine until you're 12 cause he thinks it's only transmitted sexually... Honestly was like COVID era nonsense.

    Now we're gonna get posters who will claim he didn't say all the things he said or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Anyway its the rapture today/tomorrow folks! I hope you're square with Jesus.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/23/why-are-tiktok-conservatives-predicting-the-rapture-this-week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    Do yourself a favour lad and give over with the MAGA drivel

    https://www.e-cep.org/journal/view.php?number=20125555632



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    That study actually references the challenge of long term studies but I actually cited one a few posts back which utilised two million children and didn't conclude it was causing autism.. You claimed it was a matter of working out how much Tylenol is causing autism but the reality is it's heavily disputed as a claim at all.

    On top of that gynaecological institutions across the globe have assessed the existing research and concluded that Tylenol is far safer than a woman choosing not to take it. Eg Trump saying it's not safe to take and to tough it out is endangering women and their pregnancy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,592 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You seem nice.

    Thanks for your suggestion, but I'd rather take the word from the overwhelming majority of qualified professionals, than of someone who thinks that "doing my own research" means watching videos on YouTube and listening to people like Joe Rogan.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,347 ✭✭✭✭looksee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    "We concluded that available evidence demonstrates that early exposure to APAP (acetaminophen) causes neurodevelopmental injury in susceptible babies and small children."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Dooh, missed that...

    Feel free to check the post just before your one. 🤣 Babies and children means they're no longer actually in the womb. 🤣 Your own study seems to back up that there's not sufficient evidence of it being dangerous to take during a pregnancy. Basically that there's not adequate proof of it being causative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭aero2k


    I thanked your post as I agree, however regarding pollution I think it's only fair to acknowledge RFK's involvement in an actions against Monsanto. He's been vocal in highlighting the dangers of pesticides in the last few months, and I think he's correct on the over prescribing of antidepressants. But the situation with paracetamol is a bit troubling - I'd like to see better evidence before this level of publicity.

    The GOP seem to look the other way when corporate greed tramples over the needs and rights of ordinary folks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭zv2


    Obviously this is a distraction from the fact that the red dye in MAGA hats seeps into the brain and makes people crazy.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And the fact Trump went on a deranged rant saying autism is caused by vaccines? His press conference yesterday was downright dangerous and is going against the medical community. On top of that it will endanger pregnant women, the president said a pregnant woman can safely tough out a fever...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Trump saying crazy things is so commonplace there's no need for me to comment on it, but since you brought it up I will. Ranting of the sort he does as a matter of course is very damaging, particularly when so many of his followers either have no critical thinking ability, or chose for some reason not to use it. However "the medical community" is not homogeneous, there are many areas of medicine which have the sort of ongoing healthy disagreements which are essential for scientific progress. I'd be ok with a low key "further investigation needed" message for the paracetamol thing, but the dramatic press conference is very troubling when the jury is still out. It tends to take a very long time to find the truth of these things one way or the other, I think sodium valproate took 50 years.

    My post was prompted by a thought in the back of my head that people tend to have a reflex reaction to things that happens in the US - anything associated with Trump is automatically bad, without looking at things on their inherent merits/downsides. Have a look at the media coverage of the FDA presentations on SSRIs in pregnancy. The articles quote pharma industry funded doctors smearing the characters of the contributors, without offering an objective analysis of the arguments they put forth. Moncrief and Healy at least have decades of research in the area and nobody has ever been able to show where they have been factually incorrect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    As one mother here in Ireland said today about the Tylenol scare by Trump and Kennedy Jnr, she did not use Tylenol during pregnancy but her daughter is autistic. It's a sick attempt by two men with no medical qualifications at a blame-game putting the wind up in women worldwide, not just in the U.S.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭aero2k


    I agree on Trump's comments, but I'm inclined to be sceptical regarding "institutions". The American Pain Institute turned out to have been set up and funded by the Sackler Family, of Oxycontin fame. The situation is similar with many mental health organisations - a huge number of their websites are still propagating the low serotonin myth, which was thoroughly debunked in 2022. (it was never more than a theory presented as fact). I doubt the gynecological institutions have anything to gain from the use of paracetamol in and of itself, but a lot of these folk don't want any doubt cast on drugs, all of which have benefits and side effects.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Does the instruction to "do your own research" apply here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's an evil and pointless thing to do. They're treating autism as a disease and autistic people as borderline subhuman. Furthermore, millions and millions of dollars are going to have to be wasted on debunking this clearly ridiculous claim. It's very similar to Andrew Wakefield's grift about the MMR vaccine. He had a patent on a competing product so he had an incentive to spread fake information about MMR.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,211 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    They're well and truly flooding the zone aren't they.

    Nobody talking about Epstein again, the one thing that will definitely bring Trump down and his goons down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Champagne Sally


    It amazes me that these so called leaders don't seem to realise what happens when a fever is not brought under control. I had an infection a week before my son was born, I was vomiting and shivering and very unwell. Rushed to hospital and they said the babies heartbeat was too fast because of my high temperature. They administered Panadol and antibiotics intravenously and had the heart monitor next to me, whilst those angels of nurses sat by me and kept me calm, I watched his little heart beat slow gradually to within normal range. He was born a few days later, a very healthy baby and I was back to normal too. Thank God for Panadol!

    I dread to think what would have happened if I didn't get this intervention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Toughing out a fever during pregnancy is dangerous, that's where their recommendations are coming from. The reality is, based on all current knowledge it is safe and effective to use Tylenol during pregnancy. Toughing out a fever not so much. We also have substantial research on this topic. So the reality is RFK wanted to show something so he came out with something. We also got his pet subject of blaming vaccines for autism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,434 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "The Mumps, Measles and… and… all three of them…"

    Coming soon, the new vaccine replacement tonic; Trump Snake Oil. For Patriots who will only realise it's too late, when it's too late.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭aero2k


    Any source I can quickly find says that hepatitis b is only transmitted via bodily fluids (not saliva). It can be transmitted from mothers to infants - in such cases it would be wise to test the mother and only vaccinate young infants in cases of a positive test. 95% of infants being vaccinated against hep b don't need the vaccine. The source for that claim is a substack article by Tracey Beth Hoeg on the differences in vaccination schedules between the US and Denmark - I think the US gives 4 times as many shots. I can't link it without doxxing myself, but here's an excerpt:

    Few Americans are aware that Denmark does not offer yearly COVID-19 or influenza vaccine to non-high-risk children or adults under the age of 65, nor the hepatitis B vaccine at birth or during childhood unless a child is at high risk (for example is born to a hepatitis B positive mother), nor the rotavirus or chickenpox vaccines or many other vaccines considered relevant or even mandated in the US, including 2 doses of varicella (chickenpox) and 3 doses of hepatitis B vaccines, which are mandated in states like California but not even offered to children in Denmark. Denmark only vaccinates for a total of 10 diseases in childhood, and only those that can cause severe disease in the child. In contrast, the US vaccinates for 18 diseases with 68 doses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,212 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


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    He looks like a puckered arse. Sick of him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,362 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    As I said yesterday. there is no issue with being critical, and you can be certain that there are plenty of studies being undertaken continuously to see if links exsts between drug A and outcome B. But, like he did with Covid, Trump is not asking for a discussion or for nuance.

    'Tylenol is bad and causes autism'. That is what he claimed yesterday. Can you imagine the pregnant woman getting a fever and the horrible decision she feels she needs to make at that point. Take a drug to ease my pain, but which is going to cause autism in the child. Based on nothing but the insane witherings of a demented fool.

    But we can be 100% certain that cases like that are going to arise, and women, and children, will now be placed in medical harm because these two idiots think they know better.

    I'm all for a debate in the medical profession to take place, but these two idiots are the ones making the recommendations. They should have been asked if their wives, daughters, nieces and goddaughters had or ever would take it. Lets remember that Trump is the man that stood up and claimed that Covid was all a ruse and that vaccines weren't needed, but made sure he got the best medical care when he got infected.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,992 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Honestly, I think the Epstein files thing has turned into a red herring for Trump's opponents by this stage, where they feel clever for constantly talking about them as if to say, "I'm on to your flood the zone strategy. Release the files!". Trump currently controls all arms of government which could release any such documents, but more importantly he controls the FBI and the Justice Department who handle them, and to what lengths can they go to censor the material anyway.

    Not only that, but Trump's association with Epstein is already well-known . They're only after releasing that creepy birthday note to Epstein from Trump a couple of weeks back, or whatever it was. Trump is also known to be a sexual deviant who fingers women against their will in dressing rooms and so on. If all of that is known, how much do MAGA apparently need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump is a wrong 'un? Grainy footage of him in bed with some 14 year old on Epstein island? Everything else, Trump has been able to bat away as fake news. So, even if this congressional petition thing gets the files out, I reserve serious doubts that it will sink him.

    But I would be most happy to be wrong.



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